AMD Processor PRices!!!!! *FAINT*

even better, look at all the processors under or right at $200.

I remember buying a P3-450 for $280 and thinking I got a great deal. This is much better  

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This is just great!!!

yet the new p4 processor costs how much?

If I knew how to write, I would put a signature right here--->

gee i dont know <b><i>FOUR TIMES AS MUCH!!!</i></b> LOL what a joke.

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"648kb is all the space anyone will ever need!"

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What gets me is you can buy the geforce 3 and 1.33ghz system for the same price as a p4 and geforce2 mx system.

Competition is the mother of invention?

jesus christ... intel should just stop making processors =P

cause intels [-peep-] and the guys were on crack when they were pricing it

"um.......ya....hahaha.....$3...hehhe.....um.........uh............$700.....for.......a.........1.3mhz....ya thats......um.....a.......more......like it"

my impression of the guys workin at intel.

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Nope, $10 more at the same speed. $290 for the 1.3GHz, check Pricewatch. Not the same performance, simply the same speed. Even the fastest 1.5GHz P4 cost less than twice as much. Hell, if it was a good processor, it would be a good deal!

Suicide is painless...........

A quote from a local store:
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Celeron II 766 -- $198CDN
Duron 750 -- $98CDN
..."

When I look at this I can't help thinking that for the same price of a CelII, I can get 2 Durons of same speed, one for use, one for a keychain..

Okay - Intel stop making processors and you are head of marketing for AMD.

What do you think you'll be doing with your next generation CPU pricing? Do you think you'll feel you'll keep prices low beacuse AMD is a charity?

Intel have high prices because major manufacturers and customers (i.e. commercial - not retail) use Intel.

AMD are cheap because they have to be. this is great for us. If they were a monopoly - you'd be bitching about AMD prices too...

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actually i was talking about the 1.7GHz P4 which is supposed to come out anytime soon

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"648kb is all the space anyone will ever need!"

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Yea & when you look at some of the "COMBO" prices you really get a buy. How about ASUS A7V133 kt133a w/audio atx, T-Bird 1.33 266 FSB & cooler for $448.00. WOW, That's a great deal.

RCpilot

Where did you get that price?

<<<Where did you get that price?>>>

hell pulled it out of jerry saunders arse last night in their fun filled AMD FAN orgy.

OIC, if we're not comparing clock-for clock, then I can let you have some Pentium 75's for $3 each, your T-Bird is almost a HUNDRED TIMES more expensive!

Suicide is painless...........

Hey, that means they are cheaper to replace. :smile:

?????? What are you talking about dude. I said "when new CPUs come out" not non-clock for clock

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"648kb is all the space anyone will ever need!"

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I absolutely agree with you there. If AMD was on top, I have the utmost faith that every single bean counter working behind a cubicle would statistically prove it is more profitable to price every manufactured processor 400% over cost.

Greed is like the speed of light in a vaccuum. They are both constant for the majority of cases.

Newly released, not clock for clock? OK, then VIA has the new Cyrix III 733 for sale for $54.

Suicide is painless...........

I'm confused as to why there is a 75% price difference between the 1.0 and 1.1 Ghz t-bird 266 fsb...some vendor really dropped their price on the 1.0...the second lowest is 70 more...

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now that's pretty good. (price to clock). Unfortunately Cyrix is awful. still you can get a duron 750 for less than that.

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"648kb is all the space anyone will ever need!"

Bill Gates, 1980s

You did get a great deal - mine was much more.

sz

"What are you talking about dude. I said "when new CPUs come out" not non-clock for clock"-Grizely1
So if we're going clock for clock, the P4 1.3 is about the same price as the T-bird 1.33. Of course experts don't want the P4, but it does show that the prices, as good as they seem in retrospect, are nothing special at this time. If AMD had a 1.7GHz processor and Intel only a 1.33, AMD would probably want almost 4 times as much for it as well. Also, AMD is making a lot more money per unit than Intel, because the P4 is so expensive to produce! So as far as Intel beeing overpriced or greedy, AMD is making more money per unit (they just sell fewer units), so I guesse that would make AMD greedy? All companies price their product at whatever the market will bear, so they are all greedy. The P4's "suckyness" has nothing to do with corporate greed, it simply shows how Intel fell behind on new products. If we want to see if they will recover, we must wait. As for AMD, they seem to be doing good right now. Let's hope that AMD keeps comming out with the good stuff, competition drives prices down. As for me, I'll upgrade to the fastest socket 370 CPU available for my current machine next fall. Maybe someone like Evergreen will make an overdrive to put the new PIII on the old socket.



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1.2 Ghz Athlon 266 FSB is now $198 plus $11 in shipping....

1.3 Ghz P4 is $260 + $13
(although the next option is at $290+)

Either way the price difference is DRAMATIC. Intel's drop didn't do much for me....they still aren't competitive..

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The retail c chip are only a few bucks more that the oem ones. 6 bucks more for retail on a 1gig and only $25 more for a 1.2 gig
mbaha


“Build your own you will love it more”

good info. Would you buy the retail though? I've only bought the OEM, but I'm considering the retail. Is the HSF that comes with it random and/or is it any good??

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No I would buy oem too but there was this whole debate going on about by retail is better than oem. Everyone was saying that is 20% more expensive but that does not seem to be the case with the “C” chips. Just a fyi that’s all.
mbaha


“Build your own you will love it more”

I read on zdnet sometime ago that AMD are making less money per unit than Intel. They're doing that to do increase sale figures and secure a larger market share. This is likely to drive up their share prices.

There is nothing right now to justify the cost of intel p4 processors. Perhaps, when the next generation of the p4 is out and lots more software to make use of the p4 'optimizations'. In my opinion, this version of the p4 should never have been released!


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Haha yeh, right, you have to compare the price of the Athlon 1.33 to the P4 1.3, $10 difference, so it's not the price, it's the performance. P4 sucks. But Intel is no longer overpriced.

Suicide is painless...........

AMD made less per unit before the P4. Now they make more per unit on the T-Bird than Intel does on the P4. Intel still makes more on the P3 I think.

Suicide is painless...........

With shipping roughly $280 for p4 1.3
$255 for the 1.33 T-bird. Still a 10% difference. But not bad. Hopefully they'll release their new P4 at these prices, but we both know they won't so we'll be left with the same dilemma.



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hjHHAHAHAHHA HA HAH AHAAH AHHA..... $766 for the new P4, right? $270 for the new 1.33GHz TBird, right? That's almost three times as much. Which one performs better? HAHAHAH AH AH AHHAHAH AHAHAH AHA.....

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"648kb is all the space anyone will ever need!"

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This P4 is a POS but remember AMD did a similar thing with the Slot A Athlons......(only they were fast)

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Yeh and $54 for the new Cyrix 3. So what's your point? The price of the P4 and Athlon are close, clock for clock, the 1.3 v 1.33. I suppose if AMD released a 1.7GHz chip for $750, you would still compare the price of the 1.33? Of coarse the P4 still sucks, but it is competitively priced for people who still want it. If I were to build a new system RIGHT NOW it would probably be an Athlon system on the ALi chipset. I love the 760 but it is only available with a VIA southbridge on any motherboard I can think of. Really with all the changes taking place in architechture, I would rather wait to see what happens this fall. And I like my PIII system, so I will probably upgrade it. If no one realeses a new style PIII modified for the socket 370 I will probably opt for a 1GHz chip and overclock it.

Suicide is painless...........

I said "Which one performs betteR". The Cyrix3 performs like a Duron 600. Doesn't count.

"I suppose if AMD released a 1.7GHz chip for $750, you would still compare the price of the 1.33"

Nope. The 1.7 would overpower the 1.33. The point is, P4 1.7GHz doesn't overpower the 1.33.

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"648kb is all the space anyone will ever need!"

Bill Gates, 1980s

I use an Ultra Creator 10 at the lab, it is far more powerfull than any PC supposedly, but I think it sucks. It all depends on what your doing. I agree with you that the P4 sucks, but by marketing standards, the price is right for the 1.3GHz speed.

Suicide is painless...........

1.33mh T-Birds 266FSB going for $227 now days on Price Watch. Is there no end in sight for low price High Power CPU's?

Looks like it will with the lack lusty computer sells going on. Supposenly the material cost to manufacture chips is rather cheap plus the T-Bird is proving to be able to go higher than AMD ever expected in the current core. So AMD is getting a break in producing faster chips without having to retool their plants with newer technology saving them and us money in the short run. Just think a 1.33mh T-Bird for less than $200!!! It is close. The big question is why even produce Durons when slower T-Birds will be less than $100?

you would have to ask the same thing about the celeron,and p3

it becuase you a cpu to aim at the hi end market and a cpu to aim at the lower end market

cant we all just get along? NO it will never happen. Can't the democrats and republicans get along too? Intel had its grip for a long time. AMD maybe moving in, but who knows whats going to happen later. All I care is that the prices ARE going down on any chip I might get soon. I would rather have an AMD chip and a sweet video card than an intel system which is supposed to be the same. What matters is that the prices are going down for smart people that get behind the marketing propoganda from companies like Compaq, Dell, Gateway and HP.

the palmino is suppose to come in before that. and form what i heard they have a 1.5 ghz with just a heatsink on it
and it also use as much power as the p3 does

If we are comparing performance, 1.3GHZ P4 is equal to about 1GHz or less Thunderbird. That's $280 (p4) to $150. almost 2x as much.

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"648kb is all the space anyone will ever need!"

Bill Gates, 1980s

100w of heat??? Lets use ohm's law and figure out the current necessary for 100 watts. <b>Power = Current x Voltage</b>, therefore <b>Current = Power/voltage = 100w/1.75v = 57amps</b>. 57amps!!!   Now not all the electrical power used by the cpu is converted into heat so I doubt very much that a 1.6ghz T-Bird would produce 100w of heat. Especially if it is only using 60-70 watts total. My 400w power supply can only supply 30amps at +5 volts. Not sure of the real heat output and I could be wrong, anyone can enlighten us?

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by noko on 03/31/01 08:47 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

actually a TBird 1.6GHz <i>does</i> produce 100watt of heat. read tom's article and also download Radiator, a program that tells you how much wattage your cpu produces. (a 1GHz Duron produces 54w)

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"648kb is all the space anyone will ever need!"

Bill Gates, 1980s

<b>Wow!!!!</b> Vapor Chill or water cooling needed. Well I don't mind having a volcano in my box as long as it works. That didn't sound right, oh well :smile: .

Pricewatch has the 1333 at $230!
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