Some funny messages and other minor things

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I'm now playing a sludge elf transmuter. I guess it's a very played
combo, but he is really the most cool character I ever played. Not
easiest, not trickiest, just very cool.

Only transmuter can meet Ogre on D:1 being level 2, kill him
flawlessly, and get 3 levels at one.

Started using blade hands at level ~ 7, blade hands seem to combine
pluses from heavy and light weapons - they hit very fast and pack
incredible punch. Now I'm lvl 16, venturing into vaults.

==
You ~@й^~@й^~@л^╓~T^LЬ^HЬ^HЗ^d~Z^ the ugly thing!!!
You kick the ugly thing!
You kill the ugly thing!
Okawaru accepts your kill.
==
What was that? It looks seriously like a buffer overflow. I'm scared
now because it can possibly crash from it? Having said that, I have not
found cause on fight.cc.

Also
==
You the rakshasa!!!
==
My deeds are pretty unspeakable, poor rakashasa.

==
The runed shield hits you!
The runed shield hits you but doesn't do any damage.
==
Why do some things hit me hard? Some sort of monster I guess?

I have meet a gang of 4 yaktaurs, 2 DESu, DEFi, 2 DEKnights, and
managed to take them off! Firstly they ate !oConfusion, then
!oDegeneration (that black slowing cloud), then !oMutation (fire), then
!oPoison. I even did not have to strike them at all. The took out 2/3
of my hps thought, making me scared.

What does "You feel troubled" mean? This is spell-effect, monster
gestures and that's that.

Thx for advices.

 

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I have got that. That's fight.cc:
==
if (damage < HIT_MED)
strcpy( noise, "slash" );
else if (damage < HIT_STRONG)
strcpy( noise, "slice" );
break;
==
And if damage >= HIT_STRONG, noise is uninitialised! It should be else
not else if, of there should be third modifier.

 

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Ilyak wrote:
> ==
> The runed shield hits you!
> The runed shield hits you but doesn't do any damage.
> ==
> Why do some things hit me hard? Some sort of monster I guess?

Yup, mimics.

> What does "You feel troubled" mean? This is spell-effect, monster
> gestures and that's that.

Fake spell effects designed simply to make the player wonder what is
happening. No, I'm not joking. The developers are eeeeevil!

e.

 

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Elethiomel wrote:
> Erik Piper wrote:
> > Ilyak wrote:
["You feel troubled." -- something happened?]

> > Fake spell effects designed simply to make the player wonder what is
> > happening. No, I'm not joking. The developers are eeeeevil!
>
> Really? I had the impression that it meant something in your inventory
> became cursed.

"You feel troubled" appears in the source twice. Once in monspeak.cc
for Boris:

case MONS_BORIS: // ancient lich
switch (random2(24))

[...]

case 7:
strcat(info, " stares at you.");
mpr(info, MSGCH_MONSTER_SPELL);
mpr("You feel troubled.", MSGCH_WARN);
return (true);

....and once in mstuff2.cc, as one out of several, as the devs call it,
"monster spells of uselessness." These are what I was really talking
about.

case MS_CANTRIP:
// Monster spell of uselessness, just prints a message.
// This spell exists so that some monsters with really strong
// spells (ie orc priest) can be toned down a bit. -- bwr
//
// XXX: Needs expansion, and perhaps different priest/mage
flavours.
switch (random2(7))

[...]

case 1:
mpr( "You feel troubled." );
break;

e.

 

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Brent Ross wrote:
> In article <431448c6.5691256@news.kolumbus.fi>,
> Lauri Vallo <laEEKSPMAva@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
> // On 30 Aug 2005 03:16:14 -0700, "Erik Piper" wrote:
> //
> // >> What does "You feel troubled" mean? This is spell-effect, monster
> // >> gestures and that's that.
> // >
> // >Fake spell effects designed simply to make the player wonder what is
> // >happening. No, I'm not joking. The developers are eeeeevil!
> //
> // Bah, it's flavour.
>
> Actually, MS_CANTRIP was added for a reason other than flavour.
> It was added becuase a change in monster behaviour made orc
> priests far more dangerous (to the point that a character would
> need around 150 HP on average to go up against one, or have the
> skills of a high level character (who would also have the HP)).
> Simply put, it gives them something other to cast than smite and
> healing when they don't have LoS. It was added to be nice, not
> evil.
>
> Brent Ross

Oops... the "scaring the player" intention does exist in some monster
messages, though... what I really should have pointed at in that regard
was this bit at the top of mon_speaks() (and noted that **Boris's**
"you feel troubled" is an example of that)....

// This function is a little bit of a problem for the message
channels
// since some of the messages it generates are "fake" warning to
// scare the player. In order to accomidate this intent, we're
// falsely categorizing various things in the function as spells
and
// danger warning... everything else just goes into the talk
channel -- bwr

e.g. Boris:
case 7:
strcat(info, " stares at you.");
mpr(info, MSGCH_MONSTER_SPELL);
mpr("You feel troubled.", --> MSGCH_WARN <-- );
return (true);

....but it's most important from the psychological standpoint for more
frequently encountered monsters with less devastating obvious effects.
When I still knew nothing about what was going on, I was *glad* to see
it on Boris -- I figured if it *was* a spell, it couldn't be any worse
than his more obvious effects.

"Monster cantrips" still do have a psychological because the fact that
you don't know what's being done to you makes you worried that it's
something you *should* know. I can't imagine that there wasn't at
least some intent to add a little indirect evil to make up for the
direct evil being kindly removed.

<alpha_source_diving_sound_effects>I note that you've added zap
animations to make the cantrips even more realistic-feeling in the
alpha. 20% more evil! </alpha_source_diving_sound_effects>

All in all I've always appreciated both phenomena, especially after I
had at least some inkling of what was going on... it's cute, harmless,
and non-annoying. ))

e.

 

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On 30 Aug 2005 03:16:14 -0700, "Erik Piper" wrote:

>> What does "You feel troubled" mean? This is spell-effect, monster
>> gestures and that's that.
>
>Fake spell effects designed simply to make the player wonder what is
>happening. No, I'm not joking. The developers are eeeeevil!

Bah, it's flavour.

...now that you've discovered that, two more of such should be added.

 

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In article <431448c6.5691256@news.kolumbus.fi>,
Lauri Vallo <laEEKSPMAva@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
// On 30 Aug 2005 03:16:14 -0700, "Erik Piper" wrote:
//
// >> What does "You feel troubled" mean? This is spell-effect, monster
// >> gestures and that's that.
// >
// >Fake spell effects designed simply to make the player wonder what is
// >happening. No, I'm not joking. The developers are eeeeevil!
//
// Bah, it's flavour.

Actually, MS_CANTRIP was added for a reason other than flavour.
It was added becuase a change in monster behaviour made orc
priests far more dangerous (to the point that a character would
need around 150 HP on average to go up against one, or have the
skills of a high level character (who would also have the HP)).
Simply put, it gives them something other to cast than smite and
healing when they don't have LoS. It was added to be nice, not
evil.

Brent Ross

 

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Erik Piper wrote:
> Ilyak wrote:
>
>>==
>>The runed shield hits you!
>>The runed shield hits you but doesn't do any damage.
>>==
>>Why do some things hit me hard? Some sort of monster I guess?
>
>
> Yup, mimics.
>

Yes, and they tend to impersonate things like scrolls of aquirement,
potions of cure mutation, and "special" weapons and armour (Runed,
shiny, glowing, etc).

>>What does "You feel troubled" mean? This is spell-effect, monster
>>gestures and that's that.
>
>
> Fake spell effects designed simply to make the player wonder what is
> happening. No, I'm not joking. The developers are eeeeevil!

Really? I had the impression that it meant something in your inventory
became cursed.