A few quick notes:
-why not go for DDR RAM?
-if you plan to do "on-the-fly" CD copying, get a separate CD ROM; also, access times on a regular CD ROM are much faster than that of a CDRW
Rob
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I like abit boards, but why not go asus? Better performance similar prices. I agree DDR ram would make more sense. Check out www.crucial.com for pricing. It's not much more than sdram.
don't go with the p4 it isn't worth buying right know becuase it gets beat up and down thee street. the nextgenartion should be better thoe but you prob. want a system sooner then september
Make sure the M/B comes with onboard scsi adapter, if it doesn't then u will need to get one! I agree with arrow about the extra CDROM it won't cost you much and it will make life alot more easy you could even go DVDROM. Also if you r going to go the scsi route make sure the CD + CDRW are SCSI with the CDRW incorporating BurnProof or Just Link technology as this will lower the chances of buffer underruns.
Unless u going to be really thrashing the machine i would just go for an IDE HD you'll save cash that could be spent on the CD/DVDROM.
You can get your RAM cheaper from crucial.com, probably save around $70. no I don't work for Crucial. Are you including the cost of a monitor in that system. Seems a bit expensive for a CD-RW drive. Read Tom's recent review http://www.tomshardware.com/storag [...] index.html What sort of a case are you getting. Made of Titanium with a keronite coating or something?!
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Nice system... However, I would change a little for bang for buck reasons...
Consider going with ddr, it is worth the money and not only gives you the performance, but it is cutting edge and will keep you going longer. The only drawback to the Asus a7m266 (what I have) is it only has 2 ram slots and I would also recommend getting 2 256mc pc2100 ddr dimms as opposed to the single 512mb stick for price reasons (and availability for ddr, 256 is the biggest I've seen so far), $100 each, and you will have more tweaking options as well (interleaving etc.). Even with the pc133, 2 256mb sticks is the way to go. Also make sure your Athlon is the C class chip too, those are the ones that run at 133/266 and pc133 or pc2100 will be a waste of money otherwise unless you plan to overclock.
Hp burners are awesome. At that price, you can't go wrong. I have a 10x4x32 and it has never wasted one disk. If you can get burnproof, get it. It doesn't lessen the chance of buffer under-run, it nullifies it from what I've heard. They can stop burning, and resume without crashing the disk. Also, I'm a little confused with the comment about access times with a cdrw, the 32x read from my HP actually rips audio and transfers data at over twice the rate of my regular 40x cdrom. What's the point of a faster access time (if it is) if the transfer rate is slower?
Cheetah makes an awesome drive, no doubt about it, but I'd probably go with a raid solution and two ata100 7200rpm drives. You could probably get 40 gigs for the same price, and roughly the same transfer rate if you stripe them. From what I've heard about the noise level with the Cheetah's, it'd be a lot quieter with the raid too...
$150 for a case? Make sure it has extra cooling and at least a 400watt power supply for that price. I paid $52 for a generic full tower with a 300watt psu at a show, then put another $70 in fans into it. I'm very satisfied and could have actually gone with a lot less cooling. (That's another story, a little fixation/obsession thing I've been having with cooling, saved for another thread!) But if that one is nice and you want it, by all means, go for it.
Gf3, drool again, I'm envious!
Lastly, make sure your $75 sound card is an SB Live!. You can't do better for the money, or for more as far as I'm concerned. And with gaming being one of your goals, those cards bring the games to life.
P4? Nope. I wouldn't. Not worth the money - yet - and going through a transition period. Would really be a waste of money. If that kind of cpu speed is what you're after, get the fastest Tbird you can afford and overclock it.
That's my take on it, sorry of it was a little long, but I hope it was at least (a little) interesting!
Nice system. Like the others I say go for DDR. Get the Asus A7M266 and 512MB of Crucial PC2100 DDR-SDRAM. If you go the DDR route with the A7M266 you'll also have a better upgrade path for the Palomino Athlons, which will utilize DDR memory better than T-Birds because of hardware prefetch. Also, the 1.33 Athlon is right around the price you quoted for the 1.2. My preference for the hard drive would be the Quantum Atlas 10K II.
Regardless of what you do you'll have a kick-butt system!!
All this talk about building new systems has me looking at the old bank account wondering if I can get a new one... and my current box is only a year old! Damn technology, keeps on getting faster and better but I can't afford to keep up.
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I like the Abit KT7 family of mobos but I agree with another post. Why not go with DDR? Higher memory bandwidth with that high-end application, 3D Studio Max.
I also like the recommendation for Crucial memory or if you want to spend more, Mushkin. This is assuming you stick with SDRAM. Don't know what the track record is for DDR memory.
Cheetah 10K? IDE RAID-0 may perform as well for less money (and that takes into account the need for two drives). However, RAID-0 SCSI would be faster still. (Of course, you would also need two drives. Expensive!)
Also, read THG's review of the new Cheetah X15, 15K drive <A HREF="http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/01q2/010404/index.html" target="_new">here</A>. You can also compare drives in www.storagereview.com's <A HREF="http://www.storagereview.com/welcome.pl/http://www.storagereview.com/comparison.html" target="_new">Drive Comparison Database</A>.
HP CD-RW drives are very reliable but the Plextor drives (12X and 16X models) perform better, have burn-proof technology, fast audio extraction and RAW writing capability. Some of the HP's don't support CD-Rs larger than CD-74.
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All my prices are from pricewatch and I dont put down the cheapest one. I also add a couple bucks for shipping. The case is an FK-320 mid-tower. Will I really need a 400W power supply? I'm keeping my old monitor,keyboard, mouse and speakers. If it is cheaper but same performance for 2 hard drives on RAID than I will do that. DDR I could do that. I want to spen around $2000. Does anybody use 3D Studio MAX on an AMD computer? Any problems? Thanks for all your feedback.
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I really would go for the DDR capable Mobo.. The Asus A7M266 is nice, but MSI just released a board based on the Via KT266 chipset (MSI K7T266 pro). According to Aceshardware.com the board is the fastest Athlon mobo out to date. It rocks for over clocking and has a few more slots for those oh so lovely DDR sticks... happy hunting.
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