A idea for a skillsystem

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Can i get some opinions on my skillsystem?

[Skillorb system]
- every character starts a Miner orb and 3 orb slots
- 1-Level Skills,but later improved versions are posible
- If no previous character has created a orb only miner is avaible at start
- Small Stats Boni for growlevel
- Change of Path every growlevel possible
- With every new growlevel raise the requiments to grow the orb
- subclass choice at 50% completion of a branch
- subclassing creates new skillorb for the subclass
- limited slots for skillorbs
- Boni for 100% complettion of a branch
- 50% in one branches creates a newbie orb (choose at start or buy)
-is named after the character that created it
- 50% in two branches creates a rookie orb (choose and take less startmoney
or buy)
-Shows the skill that is developt next in the different branches + newbie
orb boni
- 50% in all branches creates a novice orb (choose and take no startmoney or
buy)
-has easier grow requirments + newbie orb bonus
- One branch 100% creates a journey man orb (buy)
-littel bit higher stat boni at grow + novice orb boni
- two branches 100% creates a masterorb for the next chars (buy)
-A masterorb starts with 5% complettion in all branches + journey man orb
boni
- All branches 100% creates a perfect orb for the next chars or newbie orbs
for all subclasses of that orb(Quest)
-A Perfect orb allows to learn the skills of all branches with one grow +
masterorb boni
- orb fusion
-allows to create one orb from two of the same class
-costs lots of gold
- removing of a orb from a slot reduces a random stat
- 50% in one branch is realtive easy to gain but after 12,5% complettion
of the orb, the grow costs will raise faster.

-Classes
|
|-Miner
| |-Skillsets
| | |-Physical
| | | |-Skills
| | | | |-Digging: dirt [no penalty for digging dirt]
| | | | |-Weaponskill: Pick axe [no penalty for use of pickaxe as weapon]
| | | | |-Dodge [activates stat evasion]
| | | | |-running [increases walkspeed for short time (stamina)]
| | | | |-Digging: soft stone [no penalty for digging soft stone]
| | | | |-Improved Weaponskill: Pickaxe [bonus for use of pickaxe as
weapon]
| | | | |-Weapon skill: Hammer [no penalty for use of hammer as weapon]
| | | | |-Jumping [jump over one square]
| | | | |-Swimming: swallow [allows crossing of swallow water without
penalty]
| | | | |-Digging: hard stone [no penalty for digging hard rock]
| | | |
| | | |-Subclasses
| | | | |-Thrower
| | | | |-Warrior
| | | |
| | | |-100% Boni
| | | |-Special weapon for choosen subclass
| | |
| | |-Spiritual
| | | |-Skills(10)//I don't have a idea what spiritual skills a miner could
posses,yet.But i need that Skillset to allow priest
| | | |-Subclasses
| | | | |-Priest
| | | | |-Druid
| | | |
| | | |-100% Boni
| | | |-1 god flavor
| | |
| | |-Magical
| | | |-Skills
| | | | |-Focus: Stone [Limited use and can only hold miner spells]
| | | | |-Spell: Light [raise LOS]
| | | | |-Spell: Ember [weak fire attack spell]
| | | | |-Spell: Detect Earth [Shows rock and empty space]
| | | | |-Spell: Enchant pickaxe [Prevents damage from digging on axe +
hurts monster that are protected from physical damage]
| | | | |-Focus: Crystal [Unlimited use and can only hold miner spells]
| | | | |-Spell: Improved Detect earth [Shows the kind of rock and if the
contain a metall]
| | | | |-Spell: Stone to Food [Turn a stone in food with low nutrition]
| | | | |-Spell: Repair [Repairs a weapon or tool,put reduces its hitpoint
by 10%]
| | | | |-Spell: Magic drill [Dig without tools,some walls will be only
diggable by magic]
| | | | |
| | | |-Subclasses
| | | | |-Wizzard
| | | | |-Sorceror
| | | |
| | | |-100% Boni
| | | |-A extra small skillset for subclass,don't count for orb
complettion
| | | |-Skillset 1:
| | | | |-imprint [turns a focus for the doubled castcosts and 300 Gold
into a 1 charge castitem of a spell,another imprint raises the stored
charges ]
| | | | |-recharge [Refills a charge of a castitem for normal castcost]
| | | | |-discharge [Allows to use several charges of a cast item to
increase the strenght of the spell]
| | | |
| | | |-Skillset 2:
| | | |-meditation [refills MP 50% faster]
| | | |-will [allows to raise the MP recovery rate further at the cost
of stamina]
| | | |-soul [counts wisdom stats too when calculating MP]
| | |
| | |-Knowledge
| | |-Skills(10)
| | |-Subclasses
| | | |-Crafmen
| | | |-Scholar
| | |
| | |-100% Boni
| | |-1 extra orbslot
| |
| |-Grow Requiment
| |-Digged Squares x
| |-Exp x (small)
| |-Gold x (high)
| |-Found x of ressource y
|
|-Crafmen
| |-Skillsets
| | |-Stone
| | | |-Skills
| | | |-Subclasses
| | | |-100% Boni
| | |
| | |-Wood
| | | |-Skills
| | | |-Subclasses
| | | |-100% Boni
| | |
| | |-Metall
| | | |-Skills
| | | |-Subclasses
| | | |-100% Boni
| | |
| | |-Art
| | |-Skills
| | |-Subclasses
| | |-100% Boni
| |
| |-Grow Requiment
|-Produced item x
|-Money x (high)

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Im sorry ,i copied that from my design document and now that a read over it
again,i see it is realy not easy for someone else to understand it.

Here is some additional explaination:

Every class in my game is represented by a orb and every orbs contains
several skillsets. At the beginning grants the orb no skills or stats, but
when you fullfill the requiment (that a different for the different orbs and
raise with every grow level)the orbs grows and raises the stats and allows
access to the next skill of one of the skillsets.

A char has a limeted number of slot that he can fill with skillorbs for
example:
Bob fills his slot with a miner,a wizzard and a warrior orb or
Cindy fills her slots with 3 wizzard orbs to raise the different skillsets
relative easy.

When a orb reaches 50% in one skillset ,the player can decide which of the
other subclasses of this skillset he wants to activate,than the orbs spawns
a new orb for this class and the orb is than turned into a newbie orb that
is avaible at the start and ingame,for one of the next characters that the
player starts.

When the orbs spawns another subclass,it turns into a rookiorb that previews
the new skills before choosing the set that will be expanded.

When the orbs has spawned subclasses for all sets ,it turns into a novice
orb,that lowers the grow requirments.

When a orb reachs 100% in a skillset,gives it a special bonus and it turns
into a journey man orb that grants increase stat grow.
You proable understand this part now and can look for further informations
on the grow of the orbs in my first post.

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Try rewriting this skillsystem without using the word "orb" because the
skill orb system seldom makes sense without a sort of graphical
representation, and your diagram doesn't quite cover subskills. You've
also mixed a hypothetical idea with a fairly concrete set of skills -
maybe try describing the underlying system without using these discrete
skills.

You haven't properly explained what the differences are between class
and subclass orbs and the newbie/rookie/journeyman/master orb series
are. Im baffled...

Alsso, every dictionary I consulted listed the plural of "bonus" as
"bonuses" meaning I haven't been wrong my whole life.

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gatti@dsdata.it wrote:
> 'Boni' is the correct Latin plural. Falling back to better known
> languages is a natural class of mistakes when using a foreign language,
> and it is also easy to mistake 'bonus' for a Latin borrowing without an
> English plural form.

Sorry, that probably came off harsher than I meant it. The use of
'boni' is definitely easy to misuse if unfamiliar with the language. I
was just giving a friendly tip on the English language. Plurals in
English are definitely one of the trickier parts. Goose=Geese,
Moose=Moose, and Mouse=Mice... argh!