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April 20, 2001 9:18:23 PM

Hi everyone... I keep getting random lockups on my computer and I cannot figure out why. I have a FIC Motherboard with the VIA KT133 chipset with the onboard audio and an Athlon 900 T-Bird. I have a Savage4 video card with latest drivers from S3. 1 12x Creative DVD and a 52x Creative CDrom and a 10gb harddrive with 384mb of pc133 ram.. Please help me if you have any idea why. I thought it was heat so I took off the case and ran it and nothing changed. It locks up particularly in games.

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Anonymous
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April 20, 2001 9:27:56 PM

Oh! I forgot to say I also have 1 Fan below the Power supply, one fan on my cpu and one fan in the lower front of the case. The one in the back is exhaust and the one in the front is blowing to the rear of the case. Just thought I'd throw that in!
April 20, 2001 9:34:18 PM

Can you list your other components as well as the irq assignments? do yo have a sounblaster live sound card? Are you sharing any IRQ's?

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Anonymous
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April 20, 2001 9:40:42 PM

I have some audio on the motherboard, it says its just a VIA AC '97 Audio Controller. There are no errors in my system properties device manager. hope that helps
April 20, 2001 9:50:57 PM

what does device manager tell you your irq assignment is? Have you intalled the via agp drivers yet?

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Anonymous
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April 20, 2001 9:53:37 PM

I dont believe I've installed any Via AGP drivers. Happen to know where I can obtain them?
Anonymous
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April 20, 2001 10:00:30 PM

Ok i'm getting the 4.28 FINAL. Sure hope this works.. I'll repost if it works after i test it.. Thanks
April 20, 2001 10:04:28 PM

you really should have a look into your irq's

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Anonymous
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April 20, 2001 10:16:26 PM

Installed those drivers, rebooted, ran a game and locked up again...damn ! no irq conflicts either everything is fine in my device manager..im so baffled
Anonymous
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April 20, 2001 10:48:45 PM

Well First thing you do is like a process of eleimination

First get your motherbaord manual ok?

Go thru each setting 1 by 1 and make sure they are set right..

Secondly..
Get the latest bios, thats if u are comfortable with flashing ur bios..

Then
see what you are running or doing when ur system locks up

What version of windows are u using?
Do the Windows Update, get the Critical Updates patches etc.

If still nothing

Uninstall everyhting hardware wise and reinstall using there drivers online, also
run the Via 4 in 1 dirvers off of your motherboard cd
etc..

U gotta diagnose etc.. step by step on what happend

e-mail me if u need more help
happy to help
al
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Anonymous
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April 20, 2001 11:20:11 PM

Are you using Windows 2000? That and an Athlon can cause it to freeze while doing 3D Apps. Their is a fix...I'll find the URL if you need it.
April 20, 2001 11:36:38 PM

What IRQ is your video card on?

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April 21, 2001 4:26:16 AM

These are the best drivers I have found for the S3 Savage4.

395_win9x_me_82033.exe


You will need to go to this site to download

http://www.reactorcritical.com/download.shtml#1300

They work great for me.
(before anyone ask what I am doing with a savage4 card let it be known that it is a specialty card made by mirage expecially designed to run my SUN 21" monitor)

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Anonymous
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April 21, 2001 5:04:17 AM

Well, I got the latest 4 in 1 drivers. The latest bios for my motherboard (Just flashed with newest version). all updates from microsoft windowsupdate. got the latest video drivers too, i tried the ones from diamond and the ones from s3....and im running win98. I even opened my case up and put a house fan next to it and aimed it right on it..doesn't seem to be heat. btw, irq for my video card is 11.. no irq conflicts in device manager though
April 21, 2001 5:26:43 AM

Yes they always dont show up as conflicts even though there is....is there anything else on irq 11 with the video card?
Give the drivers I gave you a link to a shot, also try installing the 4n1 drivers with the agp driver in standard mode as opposed to turbo

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Anonymous
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April 21, 2001 5:44:34 AM

I already have the latest 4 in 1s in standard mode and i have those drivers you posted...My modem and my Savage 4 both use Interrupt Request 11
Anonymous
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April 21, 2001 5:45:07 AM

I already have the latest 4 in 1s in standard mode and i have those drivers you posted...My modem and my Savage 4 both use Interrupt Request 11, how can i change those?
April 21, 2001 6:25:09 AM

Ah ha finaly the info I was after from the get go. First remove your modem to see if this fixes the problem. Do this by booting into safe mode and deleting it, then physically remove it from the system ( after you power down of course). While you are there check to see if while in safe mode you have more than one video card installed here as well, if so remove all but the one you are using. If it shows up as having two instances of your video card remove them both and be prepared to re-install your video card upon reboot to normal mode. To change the irq of your modem you need to change the pci slot it is installed in. Be sure to completely remove it via safe mode first. Before booting after relocating your modem go into bios and enable "reset configuration data". Report back......BTW this is what is called as an irq conflict, as I said windows thinks they are sharing the irq just fine, but this is not the case. As soon as you put any load on the graphics card via a game it causes it to crash.

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Anonymous
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April 21, 2001 6:56:28 AM

Got the irqs to change and now my modem works fine and stuff but it doesn't have an irq, no conflicts showing though. but its still locking up..argg! im stumped, this is unreal
April 21, 2001 6:57:53 AM

Please do it exactly as I told you, don't try to do it any other way.

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Anonymous
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April 21, 2001 7:05:19 AM

Sorry I should have been more descriptive. I moved my modem from the 5th slot to the 2nd and reset my config, it wouldn't boot past the windows screen. I then moved it to my 3rd, reset config, booted up fine but it has no irq now
April 21, 2001 7:07:48 AM

well something is still amuck, not possible for it to have no irq. did you remove it while in safe mode? Also, after you remove it in safe mode try playing your game with the modem not installed in your system.

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Anonymous
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April 21, 2001 7:38:22 AM

*sigh*.. uninstalled my modem and took it out again, rebooted without it and tried running a game. Locked up :(  seems unfixable.. worst part is i just paid for 3 months of everquest and i can't even keep it stable enough to play it
April 21, 2001 7:47:50 AM

Do you have another hardware that you did not yet list? Latest drivers for you integrated sound? You could try disabling that in windows......running out of options here. Have you tried loading setup defaults in bios?

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Anonymous
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April 21, 2001 7:50:39 AM

i have the latest integrated sound drivers and i've tried disabling that.. i know man this is messed up
April 21, 2001 7:50:41 AM

btw what os we using here?

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Anonymous
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April 21, 2001 7:52:05 AM

win 98
April 21, 2001 7:54:07 AM

You mean win 98SE or just win98?

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Anonymous
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April 21, 2001 7:57:26 AM

Regular windows 98
April 21, 2001 8:00:47 AM

HMMMM, been along time sense I used that. You really need to upgrade your OS to either ME or win98SE. BTW what size is your power supply?

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Anonymous
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April 21, 2001 8:02:31 AM

I believe its a 250, not sure...but the switch on the back is on 115
April 21, 2001 8:06:24 AM

Ok first off you need a 300 watt power supply min. Next your really do need to update your OS.

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April 21, 2001 9:30:55 PM

Correct I have a fic az11 w/ sound it has many problems with win98 there was supposed to be a bio release but it didn't work to well. If you can get a hold of another os I would try installing it...

BTW my new Asus A7V133 runs win 98 just fine----my fic still doesn't


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Anonymous
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April 22, 2001 2:10:46 AM

Well I got a copy of Windows Millenium Edition right here. I figure its worth a try, but one question. I got the ME full version, will there be conflicts if I overwrite my current windows?
April 22, 2001 3:47:25 AM

Of course a clean full install is always better than the upgrade. However this is only preference, just updating 98 should work fine.

Madison
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Anonymous
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April 22, 2001 8:10:39 AM

Welp, got win me on there and the problem persists.. *Sigh*

This sucks, i wanna play games! :( 
April 22, 2001 8:34:36 AM

Ok after the re=install of windows you need to re-instally the via 4n1's use only the agp driver nothing else. I really think you may have a power supply issue here and need to get yourself a more powerfull one, at least 300 watts.

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Anonymous
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April 23, 2001 4:04:42 AM

dang..Reinstalled those drivers, still to no avail. Wish i could fix this. I could try a new poiwer supply but I can't afford it right now.
April 23, 2001 6:16:16 AM

Did you install windows ME?

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Anonymous
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April 23, 2001 4:23:43 PM

Sure did
April 23, 2001 5:23:50 PM

ok I had lockups when it came to building my abit kt7-raid pc. My problems were that the bios needed to be set correctly for games to be stable. Go into the bios and see if you can disable 4x to 2x that fixed my problems. Also, if you have a 250w power supply and low quality ram that could cause problems too.

Jeff
April 23, 2001 5:31:00 PM

xylix, it would be very helpful if you list your irq asignments

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