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April 22, 2001 7:22:02 PM

Hi,
It's been a while that i've been in the hardware scene.
So basically i'm looking for some remarks and/or opinions for my setup...

First of all this machine primary target will be development,graphics design...
(ok, I admin perhaps some gaming now and then, but dual monitor support is far more important than 3D performance) .


Here we go...

AMD Athlon 1,2 GHz FSB266 Thunderbird

Asus A7V133 /Socket A VIA(R)KT133A Chipset

Dimm 512 MB SDRAM 133 Mhz

2 x Maxtor DiamondMax60PLUS-U100 30 GB - 9ms/2048K/7200RPM -U-ATA100

Matrox G450 Millenium 32MB DDR AGP - Dual Head -


Or should i go for a Asus A7M266 in combination with DDR MEM ?

I could buy a 60 gig drive which has a faster access time (8.7ms) and is even cheaper,but for some reason i feel more save with this setup.

I could also (depends on mobo) set up those 2 drives in Raid 0,but i've got the feeling this ide raid isn't really mature yet...

And a last question what's your opinion on getting a single Athlon vs a dual p3 ?
Although i think most of you will go for the athlon ;-)

Thanks,
Joachim

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Anonymous
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April 23, 2001 1:25:33 AM

I think you would be better off with the ddr memory for future expansion reasons, and speeds. You can look at the mainboard guide for some benchmarks used in 3d studio max, they show the athlon outperforming dual pIII's I think...
Anonymous
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April 23, 2001 1:33:41 AM

Go scsi and get some real performance.

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April 23, 2001 1:50:19 AM

Hi,

Since you are looking for a solid work machine I think you have good specs here.

You can look at the DDR solutions, but you are realistically capped to 512MB memory at present (maybe doesn't bother you, but it does me). Unless you have access to cheaper DDR memory (some available for similar prices to PC133) then stick with the PC133.

How are you planning to use the HDDs? As a Raid0 on the Asus board? I think you'll actaully get better and easier performance out of a single, larger, IBM 7200rpm ATA100 drive. IDE raid is very stable though, I use an IDE raid card as I need some big volumes.

You also don't specify what OS you are using. This factors your single/dual cpu choice. I presume since you consider it that you'll be using 2000?

For 95% of the time, a single cpu will do the job. Duals come into there own in certain high end apps (specifically a lot of semi professional graphics packages) and also where you'll be doing long batch processing jobs, as you can have a 2nd cpu to e-mail, surf whatever whilst it's running.

As a final note - if you are self building this system, how do you rate your experience? Installing an AMD cpu properly is very straight forward, however if you get it wrong, it is easy to break your cpu. If you follow the procedures propery and are realatively handy, you'll be okay. It is also possible to damage an Intel CPU but they do tend to be more rugged.

Search the forums for info about coolers for your cpu (AMD or Intel, whichever you decide) and stay away from ThermalTake ORBs, of any flavour. These coolers are mostly not very good and are proving to be very good cpu killers.

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Anonymous
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April 23, 2001 6:18:48 AM

yea also the amd route would be much much cheaper, ddr or not. Is price an issue?
Anonymous
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April 23, 2001 3:37:43 PM

If your running a 3D animation package how many polygons in an average in a scene? Are you animating characters with complex bone structures? If your running CAD are you doing any material analysis? Do you normally work in solid mode or use meshes for CAM? Do you use Photoshop or similar to design for the web or print? If its print what size and what res do you work at? Are you using Premier, After Affects or similar for video?

Be carefull who you listen to in this forum. There are at least 2 total morons in here who you should ignore who love to preach 3D but don't know a friggin thing about it, otherwise you'll end up with a crappy system. Keep us posted!!!

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Anonymous
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April 23, 2001 4:16:50 PM

>Be carefull who you listen to in this forum.

tonestar is absolutely right on this point. Before basing any important decisions on advice given in an unmoderated forum, it pays lurk awhile to get some feeling for the <A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/modules.php?name=Forums&..." target="_new">credibility</A> of various posters. Independent verification of the advice & opinions given is critical as well.

You mentioned IDE RAID. I doubt you'll find the integrated software based stuff that's out there terribly attractive, although it does give you two more IDE connectors. You might have a look at the hardware based solution from 3ware though.

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In practice, there is.
April 23, 2001 4:20:47 PM

Does N E 1 have credebility info on me?


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