coppermine vs katmai?
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I have an ABIT BX6 v1 mobo w/ a pII 350 that i'm desperately trying to upgrade. Abit says "absolutely no way it can suport anything faster than PIII 600 Katmai". These are impossible to find now. I went to the Powerleap site to get info on the Pi-PL3 slotket card to install a CuP3 800/100, but powerleap personnel have not replied to any of my inquiries. Will powerleap's slotket absolutely work guaranteed? I've been told that even a $15 slotket adapter will work, yet abit maintains that it will not allow faster coppermines even using their own adapter. Abit has been nothing but evasive and ambivalent in providing any info at all, i'm soooo p.o.'d at them. They just continue to state that a coppermine chip just won't work without offering any idea as to what the problem is....voltage, ampreres, clock rate, chipset incompatibility, bios incompatibility...WHATS THE ANSWER?
One tech rep at ABIT told me that coppermines won't run "Due to the native design of power for the CPU core voltage probably not being sufficient"
WHAT IS THIS SUPPOSED TO MEAN?
what is native design of power? does this mean that ABIT holds a patent on some proprietary form of electricity? Or does this enigmatic statement infer a problem with power distribution, regulation, potential, current, etc???? what!???
such a statement is even more confusing when taking into account that a CuP3 requires far LESS volatage than a P2
Every question to abit is met with a "probably, maybe, could be, possibly etc...". Either they know what there talking about or they don't.
I know my mobo uses the same chipset as boards capable of 1ghz cpu's, has a clk multipier of 8.0x and provides excellent voltage control, perhaps all the way down to 1.65v
Does anyone know why the ABIT BX6 v1 can NOT accept a CuP3 800/100 fcpga370 on a slotket card???
Anyway enough ranting, I'll probable end up chucking the abit and getting a nice CUV4x instead.
Any thoughts, insights, and tech advice would be appreciated.
One tech rep at ABIT told me that coppermines won't run "Due to the native design of power for the CPU core voltage probably not being sufficient"
WHAT IS THIS SUPPOSED TO MEAN?
what is native design of power? does this mean that ABIT holds a patent on some proprietary form of electricity? Or does this enigmatic statement infer a problem with power distribution, regulation, potential, current, etc???? what!???
such a statement is even more confusing when taking into account that a CuP3 requires far LESS volatage than a P2
Every question to abit is met with a "probably, maybe, could be, possibly etc...". Either they know what there talking about or they don't.
I know my mobo uses the same chipset as boards capable of 1ghz cpu's, has a clk multipier of 8.0x and provides excellent voltage control, perhaps all the way down to 1.65v
Does anyone know why the ABIT BX6 v1 can NOT accept a CuP3 800/100 fcpga370 on a slotket card???
Anyway enough ranting, I'll probable end up chucking the abit and getting a nice CUV4x instead.
Any thoughts, insights, and tech advice would be appreciated.
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A purchase of a P3 at this point is not recommended. You are going to have to upgrade your motherboard for a new CPU at this point anyway. I recommend that you wait until next week and then purchase a P4 of your choice. They all outperform the whole P3 line.
A P4 1.4GHz will be less than $200. A P4 motherboard will be about $150. (You were going to have to buy a new CPU and motherboard anyway.) The only real added expense for this upgrade is that you must buy new memory and an ATX 2.03 case. You can now get 64MB RDRAMs for $40 each and 128MB RDRAMs for $93 each. In pairs that would be either $80 for a total of 128MB of memory or $186 for a total of 256MB of memory. The new case will run about $30.
After this upgrade you will have a system that will last quite a while without having to be upgraded. If you don't plan on keeping the system without making more upgrades for at least around 2-3 years, I'd recommend waiting for the Northwood chipset. The socket is going to change in the 3rd quarter (of this year.) Thus, if you buy one of these newer motherboards and P4s, you will not have to upgrade your motherboard again when you move to a faster CPU later. On the other hand, if you are planning on keeping your CPU for 2-3 years this isn't very relevant. You'll always have to upgrade your motherboard anyway after such a lengthy period of time.
-Raystonn
= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my employer. =
A P4 1.4GHz will be less than $200. A P4 motherboard will be about $150. (You were going to have to buy a new CPU and motherboard anyway.) The only real added expense for this upgrade is that you must buy new memory and an ATX 2.03 case. You can now get 64MB RDRAMs for $40 each and 128MB RDRAMs for $93 each. In pairs that would be either $80 for a total of 128MB of memory or $186 for a total of 256MB of memory. The new case will run about $30.
After this upgrade you will have a system that will last quite a while without having to be upgraded. If you don't plan on keeping the system without making more upgrades for at least around 2-3 years, I'd recommend waiting for the Northwood chipset. The socket is going to change in the 3rd quarter (of this year.) Thus, if you buy one of these newer motherboards and P4s, you will not have to upgrade your motherboard again when you move to a faster CPU later. On the other hand, if you are planning on keeping your CPU for 2-3 years this isn't very relevant. You'll always have to upgrade your motherboard anyway after such a lengthy period of time.
-Raystonn
= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my employer. =
I believe the reason the BX6 cannot support PIII cpu's beyond 600Mhz has to do with the core voltage requirement. The Katmai core requires 2 volts.. the newer P3 coppermine core requires only 1.65 volts in slot form or with a sloket. Your board simply does not allow you to set the cpu voltage that low.
You could possibly throw a coppermine in your board and have it work, but running it at 2v would be a little scary. Maybe with a really good heatsink+fan you would be ok.. but i dont recommend it.
You could possibly throw a coppermine in your board and have it work, but running it at 2v would be a little scary. Maybe with a really good heatsink+fan you would be ok.. but i dont recommend it.
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