Q. about silver rings

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Does wearing a silver ring affect the damage you do to vampires? If
so, is it also dependent on which hand you wear it on and whether you are
using a short or long weapon? (I.e. if you punch a vampire with a silver
ring, the silver makes direct contact, but if you're wielding a sword, does
it really even matter?). Would dual-wielding two silver rings do even more
damage to vampires?

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So say we all.

 

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Jym wrote:
> Cyde Weys wrote:
>
> > Does wearing a silver ring affect the damage you do to vampires?
If
> > so, is it also dependent on which hand you wear it on and whether
you are
> > using a short or long weapon? (I.e. if you punch a vampire with a
silver
> > ring, the silver makes direct contact, but if you're wielding a
sword, does
> > it really even matter?). Would dual-wielding two silver rings do
even more
> > damage to vampires?
>
> IIRC, Putting a silver ring hand fighting bare-handed (no gloves
either !)
> grants damage bonus as a silver weapon. I'm almost sure I've seen
that on
> a spoiler (maybe from Eva's page) but I can't find it right now.

A quote from the weapons spoiler in Kate N's collection:

If you hit directly without wielding anything, you inflict either
bare- handed base damage (d2) or martial arts base damage (d4). No
base damage occurs against shades. If the base damage is more than
one point, you exercise that weapon skill. Added to this is a d4
bonus if wearing blessed gloves while fighting undead or demons, or
d20 if wearing a silver ring(s) and no gloves while fighting a
silver-hating monster ...

So if you wield a weapon, a silver ring does not make contact.
If you wear gloves, a silver ring does not make contact. If
you use barehanded combat, a silver ring does make contact. For
a Monk or other martial arts class, this may be a reasonable
approach. I think a silver dagger works better for most
classes most of the time.

 

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On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Cyde Weys wrote:

> Does wearing a silver ring affect the damage you do to vampires? If
> so, is it also dependent on which hand you wear it on and whether you are
> using a short or long weapon? (I.e. if you punch a vampire with a silver
> ring, the silver makes direct contact, but if you're wielding a sword, does
> it really even matter?). Would dual-wielding two silver rings do even more
> damage to vampires?

IIRC, Putting a silver ring hand fighting bare-handed (no gloves either !)
grants damage bonus as a silver weapon. I'm almost sure I've seen that on
a spoiler (maybe from Eva's page) but I can't find it right now.

Hypocoristiquement,
Jym.

 

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Cyde Weys <cyde@umd.edu> writes:

> Does wearing a silver ring affect the damage you do to vampires?

If you're not wearing gloves and attack weaponless, then yes.
[Note that wearing two rings won't double the d20 additional
damage.] However, this usually is only useful for weaponless
conduct with maxed strength. Hmmh.. if rings of increase
damage were silver, that could yield some nice going. I
wouldn't do it anyway due to footrice-fears.

Best,
Jakob

 

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Keiran wrote:
>>[take damage from previously eaten silver when polying into
silver-hater]

> But polymorphing changes the nature of your entire body; otherwise
> it'd be impossible to polyself into, say, an iron golem. So any
traces
> of silver in the bloodstream should be transmuted into more
> appropriate elements once you changed from your metallivorous form,
> neh?

Agreed. After all, otherwise you'd also have to take damage from eating
poisoned foods when polying from a poison-resistant form to one which
is not. Nethack is complicated enough as it is...

 

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dogscoff@eudoramail.com wrote:
> Keiran wrote:
>>> [take damage from previously eaten silver when polying into
>>> silver-hater]
>
>> But polymorphing changes the nature of your entire body; otherwise
>> it'd be impossible to polyself into, say, an iron golem. So any
>> traces of silver in the bloodstream should be transmuted into more
>> appropriate elements once you changed from your metallivorous form,
>> neh?
>
> Agreed. After all, otherwise you'd also have to take damage from
> eating poisoned foods when polying from a poison-resistant form to
> one which is not. Nethack is complicated enough as it is...

Ah but what about intrinsics? You eat a ring as a metal eater and gain
some kind of ability, with your logic it should now be lost when you
return to your normal form.

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~ Matthew M Poxson ~
54440 Rodrick-Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law died in The Dungeons of Doom on level
10. Killed by a forest centaur, while helpless. - [95]

 

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On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 10:24:11 -0500, "Matt Poxson" <poxsonm@comcast.net>
wrote:

>dogscoff@eudoramail.com wrote:
>> Keiran wrote:
>>>> [take damage from previously eaten silver when polying into
>>>> silver-hater]
>>
>>> But polymorphing changes the nature of your entire body; otherwise
>>> it'd be impossible to polyself into, say, an iron golem. So any
>>> traces of silver in the bloodstream should be transmuted into more
>>> appropriate elements once you changed from your metallivorous form,
>>> neh?
>>
>> Agreed. After all, otherwise you'd also have to take damage from
>> eating poisoned foods when polying from a poison-resistant form to
>> one which is not. Nethack is complicated enough as it is...
>
>Ah but what about intrinsics? You eat a ring as a metal eater and gain
>some kind of ability, with your logic it should now be lost when you
>return to your normal form.

Not at all. I'd say your intrinsics aren't a physical part of your
body, but part of your nonphysical self. Otherwise, how could a ring
or amulet affect your intrinsics?

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Keiran

 

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On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Keiran wrote:

> On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 10:24:11 -0500, "Matt Poxson" <poxsonm@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >dogscoff@eudoramail.com wrote:
> >> Keiran wrote:
> >>>> [take damage from previously eaten silver when polying into
> >>>> silver-hater]
> >>
> >>> But polymorphing changes the nature of your entire body; otherwise
> >>> it'd be impossible to polyself into, say, an iron golem. So any
> >>> traces of silver in the bloodstream should be transmuted into more
> >>> appropriate elements once you changed from your metallivorous form,
> >>> neh?
> >>
> >> Agreed. After all, otherwise you'd also have to take damage from
> >> eating poisoned foods when polying from a poison-resistant form to
> >> one which is not. Nethack is complicated enough as it is...
> >
> >Ah but what about intrinsics? You eat a ring as a metal eater and gain
> >some kind of ability, with your logic it should now be lost when you
> >return to your normal form.
>
> Not at all. I'd say your intrinsics aren't a physical part of your
> body, but part of your nonphysical self. Otherwise, how could a ring
> or amulet affect your intrinsics?

Well, "silverised" could be an intrinsic.

Hypocoristiquement,
Jym.