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Why did I not get what I wished for? (mildly spoily)

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Anonymous
April 6, 2005 2:04:21 PM

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I just started a new character, a tourist. There is a chaotic altar on
Lvl 1. I found a smoky potion, which turned out to be blessed. I
drank it hoping for the genie, I got him, and I wished for fixed
blessed +3 silver dragon scale mail. I got a cursed +0 SDSM! I've
never had that happen, getting a cursed SDSM. I've gotten +0 when I
asked for +3, but never cursed when I asked for blessed. My guess is
that my half-a-dozen or so attempts to convert altar effected my luck,
which affected the wish result. Can that be it?

Thanks in advance,
Bill Doss

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Anonymous
April 6, 2005 2:49:59 PM

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wahoodoss wrote:

> I just started a new character, a tourist. There is a chaotic altar on
> Lvl 1. I found a smoky potion, which turned out to be blessed. I drank
> it hoping for the genie, I got him, and I wished for fixed blessed +3
> silver dragon scale mail. I got a cursed +0 SDSM! I've never had that
> happen, getting a cursed SDSM. I've gotten +0 when I asked for +3, but
> never cursed when I asked for blessed. My guess is that my half-a-dozen
> or so attempts to convert altar effected my luck, which affected the wish
> result. Can that be it?

Yes, exactly. Wishing for fooproof and/or blessed (or cursed...) is
guaranteed to work if your luck is non-negative.

If you attempt to convert an altar and fail (but are not converted
yourself), your wisdom is abused and your luck decreases by 1.

--
Benjamin Lewis

A small, but vocal, contingent even argues that tin is superior, but they
are held by most to be the lunatic fringe of Foil Deflector Beanie science.
Anonymous
April 6, 2005 4:51:56 PM

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"wahoodoss" <dossow1@jhuapl.edu> wrote in news:1112807061.288463.22400
@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

> My guess is
> that my half-a-dozen or so attempts to convert altar effected my luck,
> which affected the wish result. Can that be it?

I think it's luck.

http://pages.infinit.net/curlypp/digger/wishes.html

For further investigation.
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Anonymous
April 6, 2005 8:56:08 PM

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wahoodoss wrote:
> I just started a new character, a tourist. There is a chaotic altar on
> Lvl 1. I found a smoky potion, which turned out to be blessed. I
> drank it hoping for the genie, I got him, and I wished for fixed
> blessed +3 silver dragon scale mail. I got a cursed +0 SDSM! I've
> never had that happen, getting a cursed SDSM. I've gotten +0 when I
> asked for +3, but never cursed when I asked for blessed. My guess is
> that my half-a-dozen or so attempts to convert altar effected my luck,
> which affected the wish result. Can that be it?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Bill Doss
>

Furthermore, why would you wish for a fixed SDSM? Scale mail is already
fixed.

--
____ (__)
/ \ (oo) -Shadow
|Moo. > \/
\____/
Anonymous
April 7, 2005 6:18:59 AM

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Shadow wrote:
> Furthermore, why would you wish for a fixed SDSM? Scale mail is already
> fixed.
>

I think DSM still has the fooproofing flag even though nothing can
actually erode it.

It's funny, the spoilers I use recommend wishing for rustproof DSM. I
think there's a concern that in some future release the Dev Team will
add a method of DSM erosion so we should all stay in the habit of asking
for fooproof just in case.


Atillo
April 7, 2005 6:19:00 AM

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On 7 April 2005, David Tillotson wrote:
> I think DSM still has the fooproofing flag even though nothing can
> actually erode it.
>
> It's funny, the spoilers I use recommend wishing for rustproof DSM.
> I think there's a concern that in some future release the Dev Team
> will add a method of DSM erosion so we should all stay in the habit
> of asking for fooproof just in case.

A patch allows cancellation to change DSM to scales.
Perhaps "fixed" DSM should resist that effect?

- Eric
Anonymous
April 9, 2005 12:10:31 AM

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Shadow wrote:

> Furthermore, why would you wish for a fixed SDSM? Scale mail is
> already fixed.

When you'd accidentally polymorph your scale mail, the resulting armour
would be fixed, I guess.

--
Boudewijn Waijers (kroisos at home.nl).

The garden of happiness is surrounded by a wall so low only children
can look over it. - "the Orphanage of Hits", former Dutch radio show.
!