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Matt Frisch wrote:
> On 7 Mar 2005 11:19:16 -0800, "DougL" <doug.lampert@tdytsi.com>
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> >David Prokopetz wrote:
> >> "David Alex Lamb" <dalamb@qucis.queensu.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:d0d13p$9kt$1@knot.queensu.ca...
>
> >> > >Body slot list works as long as you include "hands"
> >> > >and "slotless" as body slots.
> >> >
> >> > Slotless would, apparently, be a huge list and thus possibly not
so
> >useful
> >> as
> >> > the others. Is "hands" for weapons?
> >>
> >> I think "hands" would be "any wondrous item that has to held in at
> >least one
> >> hand to be used".
> >
> >Pretty much, weapons, most shields, wands, staffs, and most rods use
> >hands.
>
> None of which are wondrous items.
Which is POSSIBLY why the next thing in my post is a list of
wonderous items.
The existance of multiple whole categories of items that use
hands as a slot is relevant in that it establishes the existance
of the slot.
> >Just glancing at the list I would guess that about 10% of the
wonderous
> >items in the game are hands items that don't work unless held in
hand.
> >It is one of the more common slots actually.
>
> There are indeed a fair number of items like that, but 10% seems
rather
> high to me, unless you really stretch it out and include things like
the
> Apparatus of Qwalish (sp), since you need your hands to operate the
> controls.
10% would be only 30 items, if anything I badly understated the
case. Have you actually LOOKED at the list? I get past 30 well
before I reach the end, and WITHOUT counting a bunch of dubious
items.
Bead of Force, Chime of Opening, Cube of Force, Cube of Frost
resistance, Cubic Gate, Deck of Illusions, Drums of Panic,
5 x Dust, Gem of seeing, gloves of arrow snaring (use the gloves
slot but ALSO require a free hand to use), harp of charming,
5 x horns (I won't count the horn of Valhala or it would be
six), Lens of Detection, Lyre of Building, Mattock and Maul of
Titans, Necklass of fireballs requires hands to throw the beads
and does NOT count as a necklass slot, Pearl of the Sirines, 4x
Pipes, ext...
The Effriti Bottle and all of the Figurines plus a bunch of other
items (feathers, manuals, marvelous pigments, ext...) all also
require hands to activate, but I won't count them.
I really don't see how you can possibly justify NOT counting
aparatuses, you need hands to use them and can't use your hands
for anything else at the same time, so how can they NOT be using
the slot, but since you don't think they should count I will
not count them.
DougL