see invisible bug(?)

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I was invisible and sink water came up as a see invisible potion the
message I got said "You can see through yourself, but you are visible."
It said I was visible when I was invisible just cause I could see
myself. is that a bug?

Asher

Also as I was looking through the known bugs list, I saw this:

Cats speak Italian instead of English.

I have never encountered a talking cat in person or in nethack.
This is just weird.


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David Justiss wrote:

> I was invisible and sink water came up as a see invisible potion the
> message I got said "You can see through yourself, but you are visible."
> It said I was visible when I was invisible just cause I could see
> myself. is that a bug?

But you *are* now visible to yourself. It's true that most monsters still
can't see you, but from the point of view of your (unspoiled) character,
you don't know that yet.

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Benjamin Lewis wrote:
> David Justiss wrote:
>
> > I was invisible and sink water came up as a see invisible potion
the
> > message I got said "You can see through yourself, but you are
visible."
> > It said I was visible when I was invisible just cause I could see
> > myself. is that a bug?
>
> But you *are* now visible to yourself. It's true that most monsters
still
> can't see you, but from the point of view of your (unspoiled)
character,
> you don't know that yet.
>

Well, actually, "You can see through yourself" suggests that he can
sort of tell there's something going on with the visibility of the
character. I interpret that sentence as "You are invisible, and since
you can see invisible, you can see yourself except you don't look
particularly solid."

-K

 

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kremti@gmail.com wrote:

> Benjamin Lewis wrote:
>> David Justiss wrote:
>>
>>> I was invisible and sink water came up as a see invisible potion the
>>> message I got said "You can see through yourself, but you are visible."
>>> It said I was visible when I was invisible just cause I could see
>>> myself. is that a bug?
>>
>> But you *are* now visible to yourself. It's true that most monsters
>> still can't see you, but from the point of view of your (unspoiled)
>> character, you don't know that yet.
>
> Well, actually, "You can see through yourself" suggests that he can sort
> of tell there's something going on with the visibility of the character.
> I interpret that sentence as "You are invisible, and since you can see
> invisible, you can see yourself except you don't look particularly
> solid."

Yes, that's probably the most obvious hypothesis from the character's point
of view. The other possibility is that #quaffing from the sink/potion
somehow rendered the character partially visible. The unspoiled character
won't know which is true until he or she observes how monsters react.

I see nothing wrong with the message as it currently is written. I would
object if it were changed to something like "although you are invisible,
you can see yourself!" How would the character know how he or she appeared
to other creatures?

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significance of short-person behavior in pedal-depressed panchromatic
resonance and other highly ambient domains... "Arf", she said.

 

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"David Justiss" <dajustis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Also as I was looking through the known bugs list, I saw this:
>
>Cats speak Italian instead of English.

The words "cats", "Italian", and "speak" do not appear anywhere on the
Nethack bug list.
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Martin Read <mpread@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> "David Justiss" <dajustis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Also as I was looking through the known bugs list, I saw this:
>>
>>Cats speak Italian instead of English.
>
> The words "cats", "Italian", and "speak" do not appear anywhere on the
> Nethack bug list.

C341-55 fixed Cats speak Italian instead of English.

(This refers to how cats used to say "miao" when chatted with)

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paxed@alt.org (Pasi Kallinen) wrote:
>Martin Read <mpread@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>> The words "cats", "Italian", and "speak" do not appear anywhere on the
>> Nethack bug list.
>
>C341-55 fixed Cats speak Italian instead of English.

Ah, right. I tend to think of "the bug list" without qualification as
meaning "the bug list for the current release", which explains why I
couldn't find that.
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