I finally hit the submit button!

Hi Guys and Girls,

I finally hit the submit button after many hours of tortuous decision making. I ordered the parts to put my new pc together! Acording to tracking it should be delivered Tuesday. Damn Memorial Day! ;-)>

Anyway, I wanted to get some input into what I ordered... You mean I was supposed to do that before I ordered the parts???

Here's what I got:

TEAC 16 X 10 X 40 CDRW Retail Box
with a 10 pack 16x 80 Minute CD-R Media 176.95

Cambridge FPS2000 Digital Speakers - 4 Speakers with a SubWoofer 129.00

ATI ALL-N-WONDER RADEON 32MB AGP Retail 222.00

Sound Blaster Live Platinum 5.1 Retail Box 159.00

32X64 PC-133 SDRAM 512MB 168 Pin -(MEM64X64-133) 167.00

IBM 40 GB 7200 RPM with ATA 100 Cable 141.99

Enlight Mid-Tower 72370X3C ATX Case 300 Watt Power Supply
Bundled with an 80x80mm Case Fan 67.95

Mitsumi 1.44 Floppy Drive - (MTSD359M3) 10.00

Abit KT7A-RAID AMD Socket A KT133A ATX ATA100
Motherboard - Retail Box 138.00

Promise ATA100 PCI Controller Card with Cable 29.95

Creative Labs Encore 12X DVD Retail Box W/ Decoder 123.00

AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.2 GHZ Socket A
266FSB Retail Box W/ AMD approved
F&HS 182.00

KDS 19inch .26, 1600 x 1200 @ 75hz - (KDSVS-195E) 219.00

Subtotal: $1765.84
From Compuplus

Any thoughts, comments, criticisms, tips, etc, on any of my parts and pieces or the complete system and the building of welcomed and encouraged! Did I pay too much? Too little? Just right? Bought crappy parts? Bought great parts? Please let me know. I can take it.
Have a great afternoon!
~Mark

Looks like a nice system. Only question is why you got the ATA100 controller? The Abit board comes with UDMA ATA100 already.

Everything else looks great

I hope you didnt buy that lame rig, you think your saveing a buck buying AMD but your gonna pay more in the long run with fustration, incompatabilites, [-peep-] for chipset, overheating, AMD approves parts. GL on HSF install.

If you buy that rig, your gonnabe back here next week asking WTF is wrong.

Buy a 100% Intel compatable processor, less aggravation, highest compatability, and it doesnt cook itself to death.

Take a minute and read back a few pages from people asking for help, notice extreamly high percentage are AMD question on above topics. If you want some of that action by all means go for AMD.

How much does Intel Marketing pay you? Do you read the articles on this web site? Not one article has pointed out problems with AMD.

The reason most questions are on AMD, is because many more people are building their own AMD systems then are building Pentium systems. A majority of the people buying Intel processors, I would say, are not building their own systems, but rather purchasing from Dell/Gateway/Compaq/etc.

Ok, einstien go help the guy who just purchased a new AMD 1.33 and it scored 1100 in 3dmarks.

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/mod [...] d=1&code=1

Im sure this is what he was expecting when he ordered. GG
If he is playing those games, im sure he purchased a good video card. if not then there is another educated buyer like yourself (im sure he did his homework too).
Something simple, or aggravation? GL

Im was trying to save you alot of problems. but if thats what you want then go for it.

Oh yeah, and go help ALL the poor people who bought any pentium 4 slower than a 1.7 gig.

Aklein

Life is hard...Live with it.

i talk with a marchant for AMD mobo.
A7V
7 on 10 have probleme crash,burn,blow-up

AMD/Asus have probleme
Intel/Asus rock solid

But much of the mobo run good if he dont blow up the 1 time.

You know, I could build a brand new Intel system that would score 1100 3dmarks myself, it's called not loading drivers properly or not doing your homework. That is the fault of the builder, not the chip.

Now I realise that you will flame me back so do what you have to do but I have never had any serious issue that wasn't the fault of hardware in the many AMD systems that I have built. Is this AMD's fault, no. I know how to build AMD systems that's the simple truth. I can't help every lamer who thinks it's easy to build computers (unless of course they are willing to pay) but I can build stable high performance systems that don't cost more than they should for my friends, family and co-workers. I can also build them for work when I need cheap servers.

Check out my rig:
<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=3737" target="_new">http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=3737</A>

AHAHAHAHAHAHA, "AMD is FREAKING 100% compatible!" thats the stupidest thing I read all week. kudos to you!

"AMD Athlon™ Processors are compatible with virtually all x86 hardware and software."

Keyword here is "virtually all" stretching the truth from almost all, virtually sounds much better.

There are tons of devices and software that does not work with AMD. I know your gonna ask me to list them all but I will recomend you search this forum for my previous posts because I dont feel like wasting my time with a dip [-peep-] like yourself.

"Virtually all" is so far from the truth, its just marketing tactic. AMD cannot claim to be 100% Intel compatable.

Even 1 incompatable device/software disproves your 100% theory.

Speaking of marketing hype, crap like this is what you live on. but when you look back and see what actually came to market all you can do is laugh. AMD took you for suckers long ago.

http://www.amd.com/about/investor/ [...] index.html

Best part is where AMD claims to have 1.5Ghz in January 2001! suckers. but you guys believed it back then. AHAHAHAHAAHAHAAH. keep dreaming cause your still living the pipe dream 760MP comes to mind (cant wait to see final changes that were made/sacraficed to clear QA), so does the hammer. what part of x86 did you miss in the product description?

<font color=blue>"There are tons of devices and software that does not work with AMD."</font color=blue>

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Fabricated Fugger Facts (FFF for short). Now comes his personal attacks, and then the tantrum (sorry, he already had the tantrum).

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<font color=blue>This is a Forum, not a playground. Treat it with Respect.</font color=blue>

Hmmm ok...

Trenton SBC, single/dual Slot1 GX. Maybe you've heard of it. Onboard video, SCSI, and LAN. God help you if you put bus-mastering cards in certain PCI slots, because the damn thing throws the onboard NIC and those bus-mastering cards on the same IRQ. And they all end up operating at a snail's pace.

Peak dual Slot1 SBC, BX chipset. Can only handle one PCI bridge, that being its own root PCI bridge. It can't see past any PCI bridges on the backplane, which means you're limited to pure passive backplanes. Whoops.

SuperMicro P6DGS. Dual Slot1 GX motherboard with onboard SCSI. We've occasionally gotten entire batches DOA--from TechData, not some gray-market vendor. In the board's early days, DPT Storage Manager (a RAID manager for DPT I20 RAID adapters) <i>would not work</i> with ~50% of these boards--no matter the BIOS revision, firmware revision, driver revision, whatever. Not to mention, resources always get mapped badly, meaning many devices sharing IRQs and thus performing like slugs. We were always having to update the BIOS on the boards. Oh, and to this day, UnixWare 7 cannot do SMP on this model board--though UnixWare 7 does SMP just fine on an Intel L440GX+.

DFI single-CPU BX motherboard. Fried a PCI slot in the middle of the night for no apparent reason. Damned thing took out my first SBLive! when it did that.

Abit ZM6 and also BH6 motherboards seem to have a common problem. Sometime in its life, such a board will go through a week or two of instability (regular blue-screens/kernel panics), then gets more and more prone to not POST. Then one day it just never POSTs again.

Just letting you know...sh|t happens on both sides of the fence. Going with Intel won't save you.

Oh, and I should mention that while Intel CPUs/chipsets are all right, Intel motherboards ream a great deal of ass.

Kelledin

bash-2.04$ kill -9 1
init: Just what do you think you're doing, Dave?

The real question: Is Intel compatiable to AMD? Which seems to be more important now days. Especially with AMDs 64 bit chip.

What kind of operating system did you get to go with this killer rig of yours? You could've saved a few bucks if you got a DVD drive without a decoder card. Can't beat ATI in that department for hardware overlay support.

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<b>Good job.it strange that is only AMD useur that have probleme.</b>
HUH????? What problem???

Good or Bad have no meaning at all, depends on what your point of view is.

Hi all,
My system has arrived and is coming along nicely, slowly but surely as I don't have a lot of time to spend on assembly each day. No problems so far and the cpu/hsf went on without a hitch.
Now, my question.
What are the thoughts about the VIA hardware system monitor?
I haven't got much of a load to test it with yet, but system temp via VIA is showing 27c, cpu temp is 29c. On loading photoshop 6, cpu temp was hitting 38c. Running ATI cable tv thingy all day long in full screen max resolution showed cpu temp at 35c.
It is kinda warm in my pc room at home as I don't have central air and there is no AC in that room and with 2 sometime 3 pc's and monitors running 24/7, it's prob in the high 80's in the room alone. Anyway, what are the thoughts on the VIA temp monitor?
Have a good day.
~Mark

Hey Fugger are all Intel CPU's 100% compatable with X86 Hardware??

M


if at first you don't succeed , destroy all evidence that you ever tried...

Hysteresis is a measure of the error inherent in a measuring instrument when the variable being measured changes in the positive and negative directions.

For example if I measure the temp of a CPU as it increases from 30 to 35 degrees I may get a different measurement if the temp is changing from 40 to 35 degrees. Even though the CPU actually ends up at 35 the instrument may read a slightly different number depending on which direction I approach 35.

Hysteresis is common in all measuring systems (the lower the better). You may notice this with your cruise control on your car. If you are travelling 70 and hit resume (to return to 65), you may end up at 65 or 66. However, if you are traveling 60 and hit resume you may return to 64 or 65. This is hysteresis error and affects the precision of a measuring or controlling system when approaching the measurement or set-point from two different directions.

Often hysteresis is expressed as a percentage of the full scale range of the instrument in question. If the instrument measures from 0 - 100 and has +-1% hysteresis, then the hysteresis error is +-1.

"Hey Fugger are all Intel CPU's 100% compatable with X86 Hardware??"

Im saying PC hardware is built to "Intel spec" not AMD.
Yes I know that AMD boards are built to AMD spec so do not try to split those hairs. I am referring to general purpose devices like video, sound, network, etc...

Not gonna fall prey to your complete generalization with your all/all scenario.

Car parts fit all cars?