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I admit it.
My AMD Duron is hot... its 50 C easy on a hot day..

I do not have any tower fans just a BIG coolermaster Fan.
But...

I want to cool it down..

Freon makes air really cold. why dont we use this for our cpu's??
Like ice cold air moving around the tower?

Im going to look into this
.. Sure 50 C isnt panic or red alert
but id like to have it 45 or os max on hot day

my room is also reallllllly hot so that also why but has anyone thought of using freon in some way??

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hey tbird aren't you the one who insisting that there is no heat issues with the hothlons?

overclocked or not, hothlonies, tburnt offerings, dorunts are still the worst pos cpu ever.

you know if you wait a bit there are new cpus that are coming out which have better thermo protection.

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Reply to AmdMELTDOWN

freon is a mix of chemicals and is different from each maker. Freon is just name that describes a whole class of chemicals used in refrigeration. It ain't good for your health if you breath it in that is for sure. A small leak from a frige wouldn't do you harm but I wouldn't want to mix it in my room.

Freon is something like 4.5 times heavier than normal air so keeping it where you want it is hard, plus it isn't good for the ozone :)

Reply to Anonymous

amdmeltdown, you are annoying.

as for the hot cpu, get a new heatsink dude, thats waay to hot for a duron, are you oced at all?

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Reply to Matisaro

Isn't freon being slowly phased out because of its harmful effects on the ozone? It's getting harder to find. My fridge and A/C don't even have it.
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Reply to Anonymous
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freon has to be compressed into a liquid and cooled to be cold.
its is not going to stay magically cold.
so no, freon doesn't make the air really cold, and its heavier than air, as previously stated, so if you inhale it, you'll have a helluvatime getting it out.
freon is what is used in the big dog cooling systems.

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Reply to 74merc

Ja, freon is getting replaced. In Texas, you have to have a license to purchase it legally. I'm not sure what regs are in the rest of the world.

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Reply to Kelledin

Not overclocked at all

standard 800 MHz

on a hot day i easily hit 50c with the sides on and normal

i do have a cheapass fan thou...

maybe i should get a good one.

also maybe my heatsink and fan isnt on properly..

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also maybe my heatsink and fan isnt on properly..



and you fight FOR AMD? you make fun of people that fry their processors because of improperly mounted HSF?
take a step back man.
honestly tho, use Elmer's glue, works great for heatsink goo and it is removeable, conducts heat better than the crap I've gotten...

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Reply to 74merc

>amdmeltdown, you are annoying.

what, I'm annoying???, sh!t that's news to me.

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Reply to AmdMELTDOWN
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they probably have solar powered electric chairs in Texas too seeing that they are so environmental friendly :smile:

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Reply to BigRat

i wanna die by an electric chair

i think id be cool

mwahaha

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Reply to Anonymous
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freon is still used in a/c systems, fridges etc, just a "differnt version" check out the cases at www.vapochill.com aint cheap- but give good cooling


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Reply to CALV
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Get two case fans and it should reduce your temps by at least 5 degrees. Place one intake at lower front of case and one exhaust at upper rear. Heat rises so the cool air will be coming into the system from low down where it's cooler (unless you have heated carpets!) the hot air will will be blown out the upper rear where it's accumulating.

Make sure you tidy up the wires so that the airflow has a clear route through the case. I guarantee that will solve your problem.

I hope you're using arctic silver.

Good luck.

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Reply to hatimh
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exactly how hot is the room?

you do not strengthen the weak by weakening the strong

Reply to killall

reallly hot..
i am upsairs and my room.. well say u open my door and walk ut its like soo cool
walk in and u could break into a sweat lol

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Reply to Anonymous

Heh, you want hot it was 32C (90F) in my apartment last night! I was able to keep my duron at 54 under heavy load. But it's usually at 42.

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Reply to Pettytheft
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My room is usually 25 C, my Tbird 1.2@1.33 runs at 53-58 C
So yesterday I opened up my case, put my big ass room fan on a 60 degree angle to my case (to blow across the whole inside of the case) and w00t! my cpu is at 49 under full load and 44 idle. And my case's temp is at least 12 degress down as well :)

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Reply to HighCv2
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better watch it, all these idiots on here are gonna say its your processor heating the room!!
lol

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Reply to 74merc

Get the compressor units of old refrigators in a garbage facility, they most likely have gasses that are close to Freon + you should also get a evaportation unit for your CPU. While building a freon system, it is important that you understand the physichs of: COMPRESSING - decompressing.
Freon works the way that when it is compressed it`s in a liquid form. When this liquid gets a place to expand, it will at once be turned into gas. This phase-change removes a lot of energy from the liquid contact surface.

You can see simular effects with liquid Nirtogen (pure). Try spraying some Nitrogen on your skin, it will take some milliseconds for it to "vaporize", When it have vaporized, you will most likely have signs of frost on your skin. (Don`t do this at home! It`s mostly used on hospitals!)

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Quote :

I do not have any tower fans just a BIG coolermaster Fan.
But...



Did it ever occur to you that MAYBE YOU SHOULD STICK SOME FANS IN THERE??????? My god, what have you been doing on this site for all this time? Go out and buy some $10 fans and stick them in there for in/out circulation. Of course it's running hot right now....

BTW, freon is horrible for the environment. Use the freon subsitute, whatever they call it nowadays, if you want to go that route.

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Reply to dhlucke
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Don't put liquid nitrongen on your skin. It instantly kills your cells. It is used for wart removal for example, and is painful.

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Reply to dhlucke

R U sure? I put Liquid Nitrogen in my palm in Uni. It did start to boil insantly, but I can assure you there were no damaged cells and no frostbites.

I felt cold and fizzy.



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Reply to HolyGrenade

you can also turn your compressed air upside down and spray your skin it will do the same thing. Also liquid N will evaporate before it hits your skin if you do not apply enough. ;)

I broke the clip on my heat sink and had to go buy a crappy one at the local computer store I was running at about 65C with 2 case fans. Got a decent heat sink online and I have not seen it go over 45 or 6 under full load. Make sure you always go with name brand hsf and case fans also.

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Oh yeah I'm positive. I have the scars to prove it.

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<A HREF="http://www.nsc.gov.sg/commskin/Warts/warts.html" target="_new">Liquid nitrogen</A> treatment (cryotherapy) is the commonest treatment method for warts. Your wart and the surrounding skin can be treated with liquid nitrogen, a very cold substance..Liquid nitrogen, when applied to the skin, usually results in blister formation similar to a burn. The wart is lifted and it will fall off when the blister dries. You may experience some pain which should be easily controlled with simple pain killers.



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Reply to dhlucke
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Freon is only as cold as you make it. Nothing would naturally be cold, uless the environment was cold.

Freon only chills when it passes from liquid to vapour phase (boils) as does pretty much every other liquid.

Freon colls fridges etc as it is compressed and expanded. When compressed, it heats up, the heat is removed by a radiator, then it is passed through the cooling coil, where pressure is released. The pressure release allows it to expand and vapourise again, and in so doing loses a lot of heat. It is then taken back through the compression cycle to a liquid phase and cooled again. This is the same for fridges, freezers and vapochills.

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Reply to peteb

While we are speaking about heat... Yesterday it was pretty hot here, about 40C, and my P2 was going for 46-47C I found it wierd because I never had it that hot. Then i found that they make an error in the factory when they built the power supply. They put the fan up side down and it was shooting hot air directly on the CPU. I changed it and now the system temp got down about 15C and the CPU 10C.

I hope you don't have the same problem!

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