no quest for me

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tom wrote:
>
> After hitting the quest leader, the quest was over.
> But i guessed i could simply wish for the blessed bell
> of opening, but nope, all i got was a blessed normal bell.
>
> So thats it ? Game over ??

You can not win if your goal is ascension. You
can still make the high score list if your goal
is to continue playing for high score. You could
play extinctionist to accumulate very many points
and a large hoard of gems, leave the dungeon in
disgrace, purchase a good sized nation with your
wealth, and rule it as a warrior baron.

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tom wrote:
> After hitting the quest leader, the quest was over.
> But i guessed i could simply wish for the blessed bell
> of opening, but nope, all i got was a blessed normal bell.
>
> So thats it ? Game over ??

You can try wishing for the Eye of Aethiopica if neutral (and
non-wizard). Its #invoke ability can get you back to your quest.

Lars

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> After hitting the quest leader, the quest was over.
> But i guessed i could simply wish for the blessed bell
> of opening, but nope, all i got was a blessed normal bell.
>
> So thats it ? Game over ??

Yes, simple as that.


Greetings,
blindy

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Lars Kecke wrote:

> tom wrote:
>> After hitting the quest leader, the quest was over.
>> But i guessed i could simply wish for the blessed bell
>> of opening, but nope, all i got was a blessed normal bell.
>>
>> So thats it ? Game over ??
>
> You can try wishing for the Eye of Aethiopica if neutral (and
> non-wizard). Its #invoke ability can get you back to your quest.

Not if you haven't been through the portal yet, surely?

Raisse, killed by a ghoul
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Raisse the Thaumaturge wrote:

> Lars Kecke wrote:

>> You can try wishing for the Eye of Aethiopica if neutral (and
>> non-wizard). Its #invoke ability can get you back to your quest.
>
> Not if you haven't been through the portal yet, surely?

Eek, hit 'send' too soon; of course you've been through the portal if
you've met the quest leader. But can you get to the lower levels of the
Quest with the Eye if you haven't descended from the top level yet?

Raisse, killed by a wraith
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On 28 Jun 2005 12:57:29 -0700, "Doug Freyburger" <dfreybur@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>tom wrote:
>>
>> After hitting the quest leader, the quest was over.
>> But i guessed i could simply wish for the blessed bell
>> of opening, but nope, all i got was a blessed normal bell.
>>
>> So thats it ? Game over ??
>
>You can not win if your goal is ascension. You
>can still make the high score list if your goal
>is to continue playing for high score. You could
>play extinctionist to accumulate very many points
>and a large hoard of gems, leave the dungeon in
>disgrace, purchase a good sized nation with your
>wealth, and rule it as a warrior baron.

Sounds so good, when ur telling me this :-)

I wished for the eye of the aethiopica, but it vanished.

Next time i am looting that chest on my way back from
the quest.

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Raisse the Thaumaturge wrote on Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:43:49 +0200:
> can you get to the lower levels of the
> Quest with the Eye if you haven't descended from the top level yet?

No. The Eye will never take you to a level you have not visited yet.

--
"Sometimes I stand by the door and look into the darkness. Then I
am reminded how dearly I cherish my boredom, and what a precious
commodity is so much misery." -- Jack Vance

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Boudewijn Waijers wrote:
> tom wrote:
>
> > Next time i am looting that chest on my way back from
> > the quest.
>
> If that was your problem, there *is* a way to get the items out of his
> chest without angering him: move toward your quest leader, and when the
> game asks if you want to attack him, answer "no".
>
> This won't attack him, but *will* make him mobile. After he moves from
> his spot, you may loot the box without repercussions.
>
> Unwield Stormbringer first. :-)

With a hostile Quest leader you can't go to deeper levels
of the Quest, right? If I understand correctly once you
leave the Quest level you won't be able to get be in. If
that's correct:

Or don't unwield Stormy. Use it to kill your leader for
the extra XP points. Since XP points and assorted treasure
will be all you can possibly get out of this game and you
would be going for the highest non-ascension score possible,
stay on that level until you've wiped out everything and
gathered every possible item there.

The best possible outcome of the game at this point is an
extinctionist non-ascension. There's only one Quest leader
to make extinct.

Or quit the dungeon now with whatever loot you have,
learn the "don't do that next time" lesson that is key
to playing Nethack, and launch another character.

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Doug Freyburger wrote:
Tom wrote:

>> Game over ??

> You can not win if your goal is ascension.

Obviously. Ascension is the *only* way to win the game.

--
Boudewijn.

"Would those who believe in telekinesis please raise my hand?"
- Maarten Pieters, in NRC Handelsblad.

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Rast wrote:
> Raisse the Thaumaturge wrote on Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:43:49 +0200:

>> can you get to the lower levels of the
>> Quest with the Eye if you haven't descended from the top level yet?

> No. The Eye will never take you to a level you have not visited yet.

But can you use it to get back to the first level of the quest, use a
blessed scroll of taming on your Quest Leader, and convince him or her
to open up the Quest for you after all?

--
Boudewijn.

"Would those who believe in telekinesis please raise my hand?"
- Maarten Pieters, in NRC Handelsblad.

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tom wrote:

> Next time i am looting that chest on my way back from
> the quest.

If that was your problem, there *is* a way to get the items out of his
chest without angering him: move toward your quest leader, and when the
game asks if you want to attack him, answer "no".

This won't attack him, but *will* make him mobile. After he moves from
his spot, you may loot the box without repercussions.

Unwield Stormbringer first. :-)

--
Boudewijn.

"Would those who believe in telekinesis please raise my hand?"
- Maarten Pieters, in NRC Handelsblad.

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Boudewijn Waijers wrote on Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:37:56 +0200:
> Rast wrote:
> > Raisse the Thaumaturge wrote on Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:43:49 +0200:
>
> >> can you get to the lower levels of the
> >> Quest with the Eye if you haven't descended from the top level yet?
>
> > No. The Eye will never take you to a level you have not visited yet.
>
> But can you use it to get back to the first level of the quest, use a
> blessed scroll of taming on your Quest Leader, and convince him or her
> to open up the Quest for you after all?

Interesting. This _should_ work.


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"Sometimes I stand by the door and look into the darkness. Then I
am reminded how dearly I cherish my boredom, and what a precious
commodity is so much misery." -- Jack Vance

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Boudewijn Waijers wrote:

> tom wrote:
>
>> Next time i am looting that chest on my way back from
>> the quest.
>
> If that was your problem, there *is* a way to get the items out of his
> chest without angering him: move toward your quest leader, and when the
> game asks if you want to attack him, answer "no".
>
> This won't attack him, but *will* make him mobile. After he moves from
> his spot, you may loot the box without repercussions.

You can also do it in a less threatening way, just by #chatting with the
leader.

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Benjamin Lewis

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over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come."
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