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OK, I know the first responses to my topic. How do you ascend?? Well,
practice, patience, and read the spoilers...
Well...I have done that...I read these threads...I know how to ID,
avoid enemies, choose the right battles, etc, etc, etc...
The problem is I ALWAYS get killed by something I had no way of
forseeing when I get a good character going.
For example, my last game...I had reached mine town, was level 10 or
11, had an artifact weapon, and mowing creatures down left and right,
when a SINGLE gnomish mage reads a scroll, surrounding me with what
looked like 10-20 high level enemies. WTF?!?! I realize there is
patience and cautiousness...but come on....sometimes it just seems like
the game is being malicious...How could I reasonably have prepared for
that?? Be higher level and better equipped?? Well, can't really do that
without fighting easy monster, which presumably these mages are.
The game before that...I am playing a lawful valkyrie..no good weps by
the time I reached Mine Town, so I do the typical thing and dip my long
sword until I get Excalibur (yes, I know the bonues, and drawbacks).
Hand reaches up out of the fountain, blesses the sword....and the watch
captain blows his whistle and attacks??? WTF?!?! Maybe this has a more
definite reason, but I have never been attacked for diluting a potion
or quaffing from a minetown fountain before?? What gives??
My point....it seems you have to be exceptionally lucky to get anywhere
in this game..yet there is post after post of YAFAP on here.
I have read the spoilers, practiced, learned the monsters and how to
ID...I have played for years...Short of isolating every enemy I
encounter for maximum safety, and searching every single square I cross
for traps, am I missing something?? I am not dying from stupid cursed
items, or throwing myself at tough enemies. It's always the sudden
spawn of 20 killer bees around me, or a gnome with a convienient scroll
or wand of death/cold/whatever intrinsic I lack. ARGH!!!!!
I really like the depth of this game, but I don't want to be reduced to
over-zealous cautiousness simply to get anywhere. How in the world do
you guys ascend 8 and more times??
Any advice?? Or does luck need to be with me as well as skill?
OK, I know the first responses to my topic. How do you ascend?? Well,
practice, patience, and read the spoilers...
Well...I have done that...I read these threads...I know how to ID,
avoid enemies, choose the right battles, etc, etc, etc...
The problem is I ALWAYS get killed by something I had no way of
forseeing when I get a good character going.
For example, my last game...I had reached mine town, was level 10 or
11, had an artifact weapon, and mowing creatures down left and right,
when a SINGLE gnomish mage reads a scroll, surrounding me with what
looked like 10-20 high level enemies. WTF?!?! I realize there is
patience and cautiousness...but come on....sometimes it just seems like
the game is being malicious...How could I reasonably have prepared for
that?? Be higher level and better equipped?? Well, can't really do that
without fighting easy monster, which presumably these mages are.
The game before that...I am playing a lawful valkyrie..no good weps by
the time I reached Mine Town, so I do the typical thing and dip my long
sword until I get Excalibur (yes, I know the bonues, and drawbacks).
Hand reaches up out of the fountain, blesses the sword....and the watch
captain blows his whistle and attacks??? WTF?!?! Maybe this has a more
definite reason, but I have never been attacked for diluting a potion
or quaffing from a minetown fountain before?? What gives??
My point....it seems you have to be exceptionally lucky to get anywhere
in this game..yet there is post after post of YAFAP on here.
I have read the spoilers, practiced, learned the monsters and how to
ID...I have played for years...Short of isolating every enemy I
encounter for maximum safety, and searching every single square I cross
for traps, am I missing something?? I am not dying from stupid cursed
items, or throwing myself at tough enemies. It's always the sudden
spawn of 20 killer bees around me, or a gnome with a convienient scroll
or wand of death/cold/whatever intrinsic I lack. ARGH!!!!!
I really like the depth of this game, but I don't want to be reduced to
over-zealous cautiousness simply to get anywhere. How in the world do
you guys ascend 8 and more times??
Any advice?? Or does luck need to be with me as well as skill?