[YAFSAP] doppelganger monk

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Well, finally a fews months after ascending my first monk in nethack (and
only ascencion so far), I've managed to ascend slash'em too.

During this time, I've strat playing slash'em, beginning with doppelganger
monks (best was petrified by a basilisk at DL27) and then a few random
slash'em and nethack game (a nethack Valk died on Fire). Another slash'em
doppelganger monk died on my first meeting ever with Demogorgon.

Lastly, a random character generation gave me a monk, so I went for
doppelganger neutral female for the rest, to have good chances.

early game was both lucky and unlucky. An altar at DL4 and mall at DL5
allow me to go for Soko first. Lots of spellbook (and usefull ones, too)
were found early (id, charm monster, finger of death, polymorph, enchant
*). But I did not find any scroll of id before mine's end (catacomb) ! My
first id when for diamond and emerald and the shopkeepers did the rest of
the job for me.

Soko had amulet and BoH was upgraded (or found in the Mines, can't
remember... in the middle game I had 4 spare BoH inmy stash).

Then, I turn twice into a Xorn to rob a huge potion shop at DL7 and what
was left in the general shop of the mall. Leaving two angry shopkeepers
preventing me from going upward...

Midgame was going down as fast as possible. Locating portal to lawfull
quest and the QUest. The altar in the quest allowed me to alchemise 17
full healing, drinking 10 right now and going down to say a word to Master
Kaen.

The, down and down again in the hope of finding a convertible altar,
leaving two temporary stashes in differents levels.

DL 26 had the portal to the black market, which I quickly robbed of
everything. Nymphs were alredy found, with a lot of chests.

DL29 finally had a convertible altar. The angry god send 3 marilith,
killing 2 but the third summoned a fourth one and Juiblex. Well, let
think... stethoscope. Juiblex is meditating, OK, kill the mariliths. J. is
still meditating. OK, go and meditate about this chained blitz. You killed
Juiblex. Good.

Founding the stairs down, I quickly went for a look at DL30. The downstair
room had *both* an altar (co-aligned) and a foutain. OK, right.

Organizing a big stash at DL30, with many, many chests from nymphs to hold
everything by categories. Identification, enchantement, all my gear was +5
and AK-worth (Whisperfeet, gauntlets of defense, T-shirt, cloak of
protection, HoB and later robe of power). Two magic lamps only gave me one
wish (eye of the tapioca) and 20 or so smokies (see inv, second best
choice after fruit juice imho) only gave me a tame djinn... Augh !

Alchemy raised my HP around 350 and I went further down.

Finally found Medusa and cleaned the Castle with the help of my pets. The
wand was 0:3 but I did not have any use of it right now (I could almost go
wishless, but with all my spells I really wanted the Eye (plus it's backup
MR)).

When up to clean the quests after genociding L and h. A throne allowed me
to also genocide disenchanters.

Then back in the Valley. I had 2 black dragon and a vampire mage as pets
and let them do the dirty job.

The big D. was the fourth of the first bunch of named demons, a single
potion of paralysis gave me enough time to kill him (of course, a previous
wand of draining remove my skill in healing, thus giving me a high failure
rate in cure sickness instead of the previous 0% and I had to rely on my
unihorn to do the trick...)

Then down and down in hell, charming a few olog-ai from time to time. The
3 last named demon asked for a total of around 500 golds which I happily
gave them since I did'nt want to chase them all around the level.

The VB level was cloudy, making it much more easier to find the square by
simply patrolling all over the level.

Then back to Rodney (Vlad was already dead). Confused taming in his zoo,
wand of digging on his tower and then wand of death on him. Not dead ?
Again. Rodney is "unaffected". Ouch ! Is he death-protected in slash'em ?
(answer below). Kill him with my bare hands, take the book.

Down to the VB, invocation. Down in the sanctum with a vampire mage and a
few dragons, conflict plus a wand of fireball quickly cleaned the
graveyard.

Rodney showed up in the sanctum itself and doubletroubled, my wand of
death was still innefective on him. So I punched out the priest, let
Rodney took the amulet and my Eyes and went back chasing him. On the upper
level, I gave another unsucceful attend of wand of death, then remember
that it should be empty (it was Orcus' one, pick it up 0:4) and that I
should swap for my spare one.

And realize that I had always used it by it's (normal) inventory letter,
and for some reason I had not performed the right adjustment at the right
time and was trying to dig Rodney... Augh. Zapped the real wand of death
and killed him.

Rodney did not show agan in hell. At DL30 I made a quick pause to retrive
a few more gear. Among other stuff, my 20 potions of holy water (somehow I
realized after killing Rodney the first time that I had forgotten all of
them in my stash (except for 2 in my sack of emergency)).

Then running up, Rodney showed up but was quickly killed with a single zap
of wand of death.

Before entering the Planes, I tried to apply a figurine of ruby golem
found in hell, it turn out hostile, so I wished for a solar and got it.

Plans were rather easy, with free action and levitation. Water was rather
troublesome since I did not come any closer to the portal and had to
re-read a scroll of gold detection because it has moved a long way. During
this boredom, I wished for blessed geno and wiped ; (almost useles, but an
accident happens quickly).

On Astral, I was on the right and Death too, so I went in the middle
(Pestilence). My Solar killed Pestilence (twice actually, but I only
witnessed the first one) and conflict + wand of teleport make me a quick
way to the altar. The altar room was only occupied by a Vampire and...
aneutral priest. OK, priest, get out of that high-altar right now !

You ascend the status of demigod.

Total HP 489 (lot of alchemy, a nurse dance with cursed geno in Soko), Pow
306, XL15 (drained down to 10 in Hell, but full healing helped).

Killed Rodney 6 times, pestilence twice (well, my Solar did that), the big
D. (second meeting end first killed, Jym-D. : 1-1). 4275 total kill, LSK
is probably a kobold.

genocided L, h, ; and disenchanter (throne).

69919 moves, 5 483 844 points (36 diamonds and 26 rubies thanks to
golems).

I was almost weaponless (forgot to unwield unihorn after enchanting it)
and almost vegetarian (in a zoo, I killed a lichen, saw a corpse and went
to eat it but it was a previous corpse of a tiger).

Wishless could have been done since I do not casted so many spells on the
way up with the amulet. I mainly cast lot of spell near my stash when
identifiying stuff, so I could probably have done without the Eye.
3 wishes used in total (the Eye, a Solar and 2 blessed geno).

Hypocoristiquement,
Jym.

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On Sun, 3 Jul 2005, Benjamin Schieder wrote:

> > During this time, I've strat playing slash'em, beginning with doppelganger
> > monks (best was petrified by a basilisk at DL27) and then a few random
>
> I'm with you there. Loaded a game after two days, needed to pass a few traps, so
> I poly'd into a vampire mage. Then I saw a black S. Oh, nothing serious, can it
> be? You bit the Asphynx! You turn to stone! DYWYPI? ARGH!

Well, this one was mostly fumbling because the lizard corpse was in the
BoH and not in the main inventory... Since, I keep a lizard corpse in main
inventory rather than in BoH.

> > slash'em and nethack game (a nethack Valk died on Fire). Another slash'em
> > doppelganger monk died on my first meeting ever with Demogorgon.
>
> My first was a bones file to boot! Him directly next to the stairs!

Ouch ! Fortunately, I only have my own bones to deal with :-)

Hypocoristiquement,
Jym.

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Kristoffer Björkman wrote:
> In news:<Pine.LNX.4.51.0507031809190.16366@hagen.loria.fr>, Jym
> <moyen@loria.fr> says...
> > [...]
> > DL 26 had the portal to the black market, which I quickly robbed of
> > everything. Nymphs were alredy found, with a lot of chests.
> > [...]
> > Organizing a big stash at DL30, with many, many chests from nymphs to hold
> > everything by categories.
> > [...]
>
> Hmm. What's with the nymphs/chests relation? I feel like I've missed
> something here.

I'm guessing he's referring to one of slashem's 'special levels' -
Aphrodite's lair - which contains a whole load of nymphs and chests.
It's not really a special level, but is more like a special room within
a normal level that turns up in some (but not all) games. See
http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~eva [...] ngeon.html for more
details.

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Jym wrote:
> 8 chests in it (food & tools, gold & gems, wands,
> spellbooks, potions, scrolls, rings & amulets, weapons & armor).

Hmmm, interesting. I usually orgainse things by theme rather than by
type- after all the game's inventory and container management systems
organise stuff by type for you anyway. I usually do it something like
this (depending on how many chests I have access to, and this system is
under constant revision as I play anyway). Bear in mind I play slashem,
and only as a wizard. I also like to keep a *very* tidy dungeon- I will
drag almost every item I can lay my hands on to my stash.

1 - Junk. Contains worthless glass, wands of nothing, spent magic
markers, useless amulets (for a post-quest wizard, any amulet is pretty
much useless unless you want to eat one for magic breathing) and the
vast majority of all the weapons/ armour in the dungeon.
2 - Poly. Contains elvish weps/ armour (particularly positively
enchanted stuff) as well as mirrors, credit cards, wands of invisible,
rings of hunger and anything else that's only good for polymorphing.
I'll also have wands and potions of polymorph in here, along with
potions of restore ability. On these polymorph sessions I'm generally
hoping to come up with silver daggers, +7 speed boots/ GoDex/ HoBrill/
Robe of Power, a wand of wishing or yet another magic marker.
3 - Slaughter. I'll make an icebox by dipping a chest in GL and use it
to store corpses (a few fresh pudding corpses are a must, in case I
ever need to appease Anhur) along with wands of undead turning and
sources of create monster (wands, cursed scrolls of CM, create horde,
cursed ?oGenocide, cursed bell, BoT) for my slaughter sessions. With
pudding farming made useless in slashem, the only way to farm for items
is with create monster. I generally lock myself in a cupboard, generate
a few hundred monsters and then wade out into them. I stopped doing
this on my stash levels when I found a gelatinous cube devouring all my
carefully organised chests. When I run out of charges for CM and my pow
is low, I might camp out in a vault or do the lycanthrope tango for a
little while, but eventually I'll just go out dungeoning until I find
some more means of generating monsters en mass. Better yet, I'll
descend to an appropriate level (sunless sea is good for this- with WW
boots you can retreat over the water when HP are low), reverse-genocide
Master Lichs and let them do the summoning!
4 - Library. All my spellbooks.
5 - Weapons. Artifact weapons and my original +1 quarterstaff (for
nostalgia), along with every single (orcish|elven) dagger found in the
game so far. I like to pile these into huge stacks, #dip them all up to
elven daggers, enchant as many as possible up to >+7 and then dip them
further up to great daggers. ?oEW will be stored here, along with !oOil
(for de-rusting) and maybe a few wands of cancellation.
6 - Armour. Contains any worthwhile armour I'm not currently wearing/
carrying. This includes items that can be upgraded into worthwhile
armour (ie dragon scales, leather gloves) in case I get an abundance of
scrolls and decide to vape some stuff in an attempt to get +7 GoDex or
something. Scrolls of enchant armour and cursed scrolls of destroy
armour are stored here. If I'm feeling particularly geeky I'll remove/
replace all my dragon scales in order to sort them by colour in the
container's contents list.
7 - Dip. Contains otherwise useless potions and scrolls, ready for my
next pond-run. Depending on what spells and intrinsics I have (and what
smoky happens to be), this might include magic mapping, obj detect,
see invisible...
8 - Loot. Everything else, basically, which boils down to cash, food,
all remaining scrolls, potions and wands, useful or edible rings
(increase damage- yum), wands, magic markers, tinning kits, spare magic
whistles and stehoscopes, tools and usually some other miscellaneous
objects that might be good for upgrade (touchstone, tin opener, glass
orb, mundane bag).

I'll also keep a statue 'room' nearby (although I tend to dig out my
stash levels entirely, so the word 'room' is used generously- it's more
likely to be some sort of boulder enclosure) and a handy pre-assembled
boulder fort or two.

Well done on the ascension by the way.