China ‘ready to use N-weapons against US’

All talk.. and the US would just as easily say they're prepared to use Nuclear weapons against China..

Ever wonder why we're really building that Missile Defense? China.

China has a very low tech military.. the US is out numbered by a huge amount in man power.. but with our tech working for us, they don't stand a chance until nuclear weapons come into play.

China wouldn't risk it.. and I doubt the US would attack China's homeland over Taiwan.. more or less it's an agreement that if China goes militarily after Taiwan, they'll have us to deal with.. and with that, they'll stay off.

2 weeks ago or so Taiwan officials met Chinese officials in Bejing and agreed to a peaceful resolution.

Problem is, China has been dumping a huge amount of money into importing weapons and a large buildup opposite Taiwan.. They say one thing, their actions say another.

Which is why a few years ago when the US sold a few Destroyers to Taiwan for defense.. they pulled back on giving out the Aegis destroyer, which is the most advanced destroyer out there.. so that technology wouldn't fall into the hands of China.


Where are those Suitcase nukes anyhow?

Not stupid at all. That is the purpose of nuclear, to threaten others from attacking period. Of course you hope the China wouldn't actually, but the threat is there.

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Accuracy is not critical with nuclear missles, just a few in our country would reak devastation. And anywhere near the coastline would be a target and plenty of damage.

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I wonder how much the average person in this forum knows about his government to be able to make statements about it...
Personally I don't think there is anyone here who has anywhere near the amount of knowledge needed to make predictions or statements. This is strange to me, very strange. Is it that we tent to think we know enough to state comments or is it just that we will talk about anything and everything? I think this sort of stuff is so pointless to talk about, because only the government knows what its doing. Any statement anyone makes here is as good as drawing a line on water...

Then I see those who make themselves feel big by giving a size matters and we are the biggest speech. I can't express how stupid that sounds to me. Or why not stop taking sides. Can it be that millions of people are wrong in America or is it that millions of people are wrong in china? Could either civilization be more stupid than the other? I think not, its all about not having the capacity to share and live with each other as one.

What a shame that more people are interested in nuclear weapons and war than science and technology (world wide). It will take a great disaster of astronomical size to bring us humans together. Maybe an asteroid SHOULD hit the earth; it might get us to realize fighting each other is not constructive. I can only imagine and dream about what might have happened if the money that went into the war with Iraq was spent to help Africa... *sigh* I wish we as a community were able to stop talking about war, power, money, possession, and destruction.

I almost never post in threads like this. Mostly because they are disturbing to me and I just skip them. This happens to be one of those times where I read the thread and I felt like voicing out my opinion just like everyone else has so far. I hope I haven't offended any of you and I’d like to add this was not directed at anyone.

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Of course we can do both, but is that an excuse to have wars?

I’m not into liberalism in the sense it is used and I don't like the idea of "throwing" money at Africa. As a matter of fact I disagree with it in the sense you explain in your reply. First off, my point wasn't Africa. My point was not fighting and putting the time, money, and energy towards something constructive like science. Second, I would never agree to giving money to any government, NEVER. Governments are the root of corruption, even the “best” of them; New Zealand or America.

My approach would be completely different and I must say I have never heard of a better idea from a politician. It’s not my idea in a sense of originality, but it hasn't been implemented in Africa in a large scale. It takes a lot of money to do this and where it HAS been done, there have only been success stories. But this is not something you would hear about on TV. TV is a political tool and it doesn't display anything unless there is money to be made off it. Exceptions are those 15-30 second sponsored ads you see about "talk to your children", "family values" and that sort of stuff.

But again, I have to ask, why should we do something just because we can when its harmful. I bet you and I can kick each others butts all day and then some, but how would that be a good thing? Now if you and I did some community service, that’s something that is constructive and well respected. THIS is the point I’m trying to make.

Also, there has already been millions of dollars that have been “thrown” at Africa from America alone, already. It has done next to nothing. In some cases it has actually brought more corruption.

</font color=red><b><font color=orange>I believe in my penis, it has the power to create life.

A sensible comment ... and from <b>you</b>!


<b>"The Edge - there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over." Hunter S. Thompson, </b><b><i>Hell's Angels, 1965</i></b>

Iraq was never about oil ... when are you naive, revisionist liberals going to understand that ... we've gone over this ad nauseam over the last 2-3 years ... just because you say the words, doesn't make it so.


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Exactly why I keep saying the U.S should take care of country's that currently are trying to achieve Nuclear capability's.

Imagine IRAQ as a nuclear power!! Russia was and still is a Nuclear power but since the fall of the communist era they went through huge organizational problems dealing with the waste materials involved in cleaning up weapons they scrapped and they had the equipment and the awareness ability's to deal with it.

I can't understand how the U.S and the Freaking U.N has allowed other country's world wide to achieve the nuclear ability's that both the U.S and Russia have learned are totally wasteful of mankind's endeavours.

However in Chinas case they appear to have other interests not including war and the Chinese General that had a loose mouth that started all this speculation is probably shot in the back of the head by now or riding a jail cell till he rots.



Discovery Channel headline.

It was announced on Friday in the China Daily newspaper that plans are in full throttle to send China's second manned Shuttle mission into space this October; just 2 years after becoming the 3rd nation in the world to complete such a feat.
Six candidates, picked from a pool of 14 back in December, have already begun their astronaut training. Only two of these space aces, however, will eventually be chosen for the early October journey aboard the Shenzhou VI.

And as NASA eagerly tries to scrape things together at the Kennedy Space Center, the Space Department of the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp. is looking more ambitious than ever, with plans to set up a Chinese orbiting space station within the next five years, send up a third Shenzhou VII mission with a spacewalk, and once again place human feet on the moon.


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"That is true, but they think if they keep repeating them long enough, that it will become truth."

Mr. Bush kept repeating the war is about weapons of mass destruction. That wasn't true.... we're still in Iraq.

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I said DIS-ARM not USE nuclear weapons on the other country's. Prior to IRAQ coming under American and coalition control we were all not led to believe; but as a world group believed that IRAQ had nuclear capability's.

Country's such as North Korea and other small country's have no purpose on planet earth owning them. America owns them by default from WWII because they needed them to defeat a Japanese people who at that time were the most sadistic animals walking the face of the earth even worse then to the Axis powers led by Hitler, and even I have a hard time saying that about the Japanese but it was in fact true.

Country's who have developed nuclear arsenals since 1945 are experienced in the fact that they have made all the learning curve mistakes. Aside from launching a nuclear attack on another nation the U.S and Russia already understand the folly of owning and maintaining a nuclear arsenal.

As these two super powers understand these daily crimes and accidents caused by nuclear waste and development they need to prevent other country's from operating nuclear facility's that can produce weapons grade plutonium and other minerals associated with nuclear bombs and the possible development of ICBM. Intercontinental Ballistic Missals were not even achieved as accurate by the Russians and even the Americans could not claim pin point accuracy until many years after WWII. Now that the U.S has missile platforms such as the Tomahawk Cruise missile there can never again be any doubt of Americas ability to strike any target any where in the world any time they like.

That power in responsible hands must be maintained and not allowed to fall into a country's hands that have different moral and ethical principals that do not let them see past their religions and beliefs to our own humanity. In some cultures such as Japanese and Chinese faiths saving FACE is always much preferable then to saving another's life. The same with an Arab religion that prevents them from joining modern country's on this planet, their religion is out of date out of time and ready to implode in on it's self as it has been since Israel made an independent state.

No one likes to be told how to live but the fact remains the Catholic/Protestant and Jewish religions although some times brutal have learned to adjust to modern times and create a proper balance within the world group.

No one pushes a button simply to strike out against another person so they feel physical pain and to watch them die those kinds of psychopaths are not allowed into Missile control rooms!! However Religious Military leaders that believe in Doctern such as the Nazi's believed in Nazi doctern those are the types of people who gain control over governments and gain access to the availability of such weapons.

If Bin Laden had taken his Holy cause through government routes instead of a military one that [-peep-] world currently be the most dangerous man alive. Because he opted for a military route to his Jihad he is either dead or neutered to the point of sidewalk bombings.

Just hope that a person like Bin-Laden never gets near a military complex through political channels to ever strike out against the religions outside of his own past tense faith.

Religious belief is the cause of all mankind's problems corrupted by so many men and woman to achieve personnel goals that the religions themselves have little more meaning in them then the instructions printed on match book covers [Close Cover Before Striking]

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A lot of us X military types know a lot more than you think, and though we even today cannot talk about in detail, and give you or anyone specific details, about what some of us actually do know about the projects we were involved with, we can summarize from the things we've seen just how powerful the US arsenal actually is.

What you are allowed to know about, and have access and knowledge to as the American public, and the world itself, is only a small percentage of the weapons capabilities this country has, I prefer to call it sandbagging as in relation to a card game.

I can say this, I've seen with my own eyes Nuclear weapons where there were supposed to be none, and though someone in governmental ranks knew of their existence, and kept a running account of them they were not reported as being numbered in the actual arsenal, which was a cold war ploy to present numbers to Russia, that were way lower than the actual stockpile, so what we openly disarmed were outdated weapons we had no use for that were being phased out anyway, and we never were in jeopardy with Russia's arsenal ever!

So knowing that as a solid fact, today I can only imagine where our capabilities are at, but rest assured this country is prepared for a nuclear offensive attack son, no matter what you think!

Ripleys

Hopefully we will never see any country stupid enough to launch against the US, because life on this planet would never be the same!


Ry





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<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by 4ryan6 on 07/17/05 08:04 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

Yes!


What would be the purpose in doing something so stupid, you seem to forget we are the only country that has used these types of weapons on a race of people, and first hand seen the aftermath of it.


Wake Up Scammy!!!!


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The same goes with all Nuk-Powers.
If you know what to nuke, and you have just some dozens of missiles like all mature nuclear powers have today (US, UK, France, China, Russia, two dozens of former Soviet republics we don't even know their names) you can destroy some wide area of this planet even if noone retaliates.
When you nuke some country that haves nuclear reactors as power generators (like China does today), you may be starting a very interesting chain reaction. Think of the fallout that comes next. The Chernobil reactor melted and the fallout reached Greece, some thousants of miles away... and no bomb fell on Chernobil.

That's an interesting question for the tech-head amongst you:
<font color=red>What happens when a H-bomb hits a plutonium-rich reactor? </font color=red>

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sorry but the US has different religious moral and ethical principals to most of the world.

nobody in the world wants anyone to have nukes, and the US is no exception to the rule.

IMO its either NONE, or ALL.

it is as hypocritical as satan running heaven. and is unfeasable in any political sense.

the only countries that should not have nuclear weapons IMO are the ones who choose not to. I for one, do not want nukes in my country. whether they are my nukes, or someone elses nukes.

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You don't know anything about the USA so just stop while you're ahead.

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Nice.

US imported 8.5 Billion worth of oil from Iraq at current market value, exported 895 million to Iraq.

Exactly. We didn't take their oil, we bought it from them and paid them market value instead of just giving them the money.

Definately other reasons than what he know. Iraq definately was a training ground.. especially with Syria and Iran there.. they all have the same objective.

yeah its hard for some people to see the truth through alot of liberal bullsh|T; but in the end it should help alot morre people out than before...

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I know most chinese takeaway's can't even deliver an order correctly, so I can only imagine how random an ICBM would be delivered.

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You don't know anything about Americans but what you read. You don't know what the real morals and ethics of the Americans on this forum. Except what you gather from what we say here. YOU DON"T KNOW ANY OF US PERIOD! not really...

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The US is pooring a lot of money in now, but that debt will be repaid many times over in the next 10-20-30-100 years.
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Will it? Why is the US going to have our childrens children paying this back? And why is SS min age to recieve rising? Why are the SS funds predicted to dry up in 20 years? Why are deficiets climbing at record rates? Where is my million dollars???

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