How many of you own P4's?

I would like to know how many people in here actually own a P4. I'm willing to bet that very few do. And don't lie please. I know I wouldn't pay the outrageous price for one.

-MP Jesse

"Signatures Still Suck"

I don't sell P4's because the current version is crap.

Can i know why, performance or lifetime of the Chipset/mothersboard

Here's mine

<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=8747" target="_new">http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=8747</A>

-MP Jesse

"Signatures Still Suck"

i havent sold any P4s yet, but looking forward to sell some.
i largely sell AMD based systems, then P3s and no cyrix ones.

i dont like intel's stock-clearance sale of P4s. i recommend people to wait for northwood and brookedale if they insist on P4.

girish

<font color=blue>die-hard fans don't have heat-sinks!</font color=blue>

OK, is it worth $200 more for an extra 100mhz (1.7Ghz to 1.8Ghz)? That's outrageously priced. As for the "spend about 10 hrs flashing your brains out while crossing your fingers waiting for a helpful post here". I've built dozens of Athlon/Duron machines and NEVER ONCE had a problem. The problem is most these people don't know what they're doing.

-MP Jesse

"Signatures Still Suck"

Ok, that's scary. I say everyone goes out (including non-americans) and celebrates the 4th of July. Lets drink and blow stuff up...

<font color=red>Yeah, I took a crap on your lawn. Whatcha gonna do about it?</font color=red>

Oh, I see how it is. The rest of the world doesn't want to blow stuff up and drink eh? I think not....

disclaimer: Do not take me seriously

<font color=red>Yeah, I took a crap on your lawn. Whatcha gonna do about it?</font color=red>

They recalled the 1.13

<font color=red>Yeah, I took a crap on your lawn. Whatcha gonna do about it?</font color=red>

I sell Durons, Thunderbirds. That's it right now. No P4, no P3. When people ask me why, I tell them the truth.

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Grass is a beautiful weed

Uhhhh, what did you say? perhaps i'm just a moron but I have no clue what you said in the last part of that message....

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Grass is a beautiful weed

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't you be informing your uninformed customers and not selling them the Pentium 4's they think they need simply because they are from Intel?

(Better?)

I AM Canadian.

I do inform my customers. That's why I tell them the truth when they ask "Why no P4?". "Well, AMD has a counter-P4 product which is just as good, if not better, called the AMD Thunderbird." (That's just a simple explaination, I use something along those lines for the more computer-illiterate.)

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Grass is a beautiful weed

Thunderbird still lacks SSE2, no clue why you lie to your customers. maybe they might enjoy better SSE2 instructions. Not everyone is cheap like you.

P4 outragous in price? wtf is wrong with you. you can build very nice P4 systems for under a grand. stupid lemmings like you trying to make people think that P4 is thousands of dollars more expensive. when its more like 20~50 bucks more. yet your getting better product, higher compatability and stability when you buy Intel product, without the aggravation, overheating, cracked cores, incompatabilities, autoreboots, shims that dont fit, PSU that actually work and does not need to be replaced as a guess to why your machine autoreboots, and other misc crap.

For those about to chime in like the lemmings they are: FUCKOFF im not gonna reply to "compatability list" so deal with it. too many to list and im not gonna jump thru hoops for your lame ass.

<b>Fine! Then you've just sealed your fate as a stupid troll. We have no more use for you here spewing nothing but bullshit. If you can't back it up then shutup. You never backup any of your claims.</b>

<font color=red>Yeah, I took a crap on your lawn. Whatcha gonna do about it?</font color=red>

But it's true. I've never seen you, bowser, AMDMeltdown, or any other Intel troll post any technical proof of superiority for Intel. You can post benchmarks til the cows come home, but everyone knows not all benchmarks are perfect (especially seeing that you're the one blaming Tom for doing biased benchmarks). I'm talking about proof of the features of the processor.

You brought up SSE2, that's a good start. SSE2 has not had a chance to prove what it can, or can't do in real-world applications. It looks promising, but it's a small step in the grand scheme of processor evolution. Itanium vs. Sledgehammer is a much bigger step.

So go ahead, email me with a side-by-side technical comparison of the P4 and the Tbird (or whatever else you want to compare). I promise I'll read the whole thing (carefully). If you do it from an unbiased point of view, I'll even read it more than once.
<A HREF="mailto:fatburger@iname.com">fatburger@iname.com</A>

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My Athlon can beat your Ferrari off the line.

*agrees*

i've never had a problem with my duron.

The more there are, the easier it is to list ten. I mean, jesus, just pick the top ten on the list, or the first ten that come to mind. It's that easy. I could probably walk you through the process in ten or so different editors, if you need help. If you still get a headache from that, maybe I'll be nice enough to send you a ScriptIt response file, so you won't have to learn how to click with the mouse.

Until you back up anything you say, you won't have the respect of anyone on this forum but the other Intel idiots.

One would think a veteran technician would have a little common sense...

Kelledin

"/join #hackerz. See the Web. DoS interesting people."

Huh?

-MP Jesse

"Signatures Still Suck"

you're an idiot! show me your proof! your just spewing crap! you show nothing to back you up!?!?!? the mwave bundle included the motherboard, cpu and ram and heatsink/ fan! it was all from the same brand name and all from the same place punk! why is the p4 system 400 bucks nmore then a 1.4ghz AMD system from the same [-peep-] place! god you're a moron! same with the pentium 3 1000!!!! it was 500 bucks cheaper! you're just a fool to think the p4 is the greatest thing! it's a piece of silicon crap!

btw i got my ATI all in wonder radeon for $256 including shipping at mwave where everywhere else it was 300 bucks not including shipping and or sales tax where applicable! SUCKER! oh did i mention you can get a sound blaster live platinum 5.1 for 137 dollars at mwave?

show me your proof! what you got punk! you got nothing you showed me nothing! was it 500 bucks for just the chip!? did you see the bundle was equipped with 256 mb of RDRAM!? i would go 512 but they didn't offer probably because rdram is so dam expensive no one would buy it!

PUNK!!! you got nothing! you are nothing! you're just a fool!

mpjesse:

Sorry, forgot you started the thread. I thought you were chiming in to say you have a P4.

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My Athlon can beat your Ferrari off the line.

LMAO, Lemming alert!

www.pricewatch.com

SSE2 apps are available now, and lots of them. take a min to visit www.intel.com and read the list.

Face it SSE2 is coming fast and AMD does not have similar product to compete yet. no competition for P4 =)

The hammer is still vapor-ware, HTF can you losers claim anything about hammer when its not real? stop living in fantasy land and wake up.

www.simics.com

ROFL@ what you paid for Radeon, sucker born every minute =)

Funny, according to Ace's Hardware and Anandtech, the Athlon competes quite nicely with the P4--even in SSE2 optimized apps. There goes your "no competition for P4" theory...

Kelledin

"/join #hackerz. See the Web. DoS interesting people."

This is like 2 mechanics arguing over Ford and Chevy. Just pick one and play. They both blow the socks off what we had 2 yrs ago. I will admit you'd have to be on drugs to think that an Intel 1.4 ghz could stand up to a AMD 1.4 ghz with both at about $165 at pricewatch.com.

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