AMD Barton and Clawhammer

[Guest]

when will the amd barton comes out? what will be the difference between throughbred and barton? will there be a clawhammer desktop version?

 

[Guest]

barton will come 2H 2002
barton will be soi throughbred not.
yes there will be a desktop version of clawhammer.

 

[zengeos]

These new processors 9-18 months out from AMD look quite impressive.

I suspect we'll see the Hanner processors targetted where the P4 was when it first came out, with the Athlon based PU's more mid range. That means power users will be able to create screaming desktop systems...like they can't already!

Mark-

 

[Guest]

So then will barton have SSE2? Will Clawhammer desktop version have SSE2 also? What will be the big differences between barton and throughbred?

 

[girish]

Hammer is 64 bit processor and is aimed to compete with Intel Itanium.

The real competitors to the P4 will be the Palomino (the Athlon 4) thats just out, and then the Thoroughbred and Bartons.

I dont think Thoroughbred and Barton will have any major architectural improvements over Thunderbird, but will be done with advanced manufacturing processes like 0.13 micron and SOI. There are no details out yet, maybe they will be improve some L1/L2 cache, add MP support alongwith fine tuning of existing architechtures. Newer manufacturing processes only mean faster and cooler processors.

Then, on the Duron front they have the Morgan, and then 0.13 micron Appaloosa (whatever that means). Now even a value processor like Duron is expected to cross 1G!

girish

<font color=blue>die-hard fans don't have heat-sinks!</font color=blue>

 

[SerArthurDayne]

Hehe, Durons already cross 1G

My Duron does 1100 with some extra cooling(but I keep it at 1G so I can lower the voltage), and the guy who convinced me to buy a Duron in the first place runs his Duron600 at 1.2G with an alpha pal... amazing neh?

 

[girish]

well, yeah.

that way there are 1.2 GHz Durons and 1.6+ GHz Athlons already. hehe!

try <A HREF="http://www.overclockers.com" target="_new">http://www.overclockers.com</A> or <A HREF="http://www.oczone.com" target="_new">http://www.oczone.com</A> to see how people exploited these chips to the extreme.

I meant Durons will be officially rated at 1+ GHz!

girish

<font color=blue>die-hard fans don't have heat-sinks!</font color=blue>

 

[killall]

the sledgehammer and clawhammer are the desktop and server chips...

you do not strengthen the weak by weakening the strong

 

[FatBurger]

In the reverse order
Clawhammer for desktop, Sledgehammer for servers.

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