Some more hearse questions

[Guest]

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Directed at Alexis, though I post them here so perhaps someone else can
learn from my Annoying Questions.

1.
I have four 'game directories' - I play at two different computers, with
Nethack and Slash'EM on both.
Should I have the same "User token" for all the installations, to
identify me as one unique user, or should I have it different depending
on which game I'm using, or different for all four hearses?

2.
I understand that Hearse uses HTTP to send and retrieve data. Does it
use some non-standard port for this?
Hearse currently works fine at one of the computers mentioned above, and
not at all at the other. The latter one is behind a firewall setup which
among many things does not allow protocols over non-standard ports.

/Kristoffer

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[Alexis]

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kristoffer.bjorkman@frontnet.org wrote:
> Directed at Alexis, though I post them here so perhaps someone else can
> learn from my Annoying Questions.

Good idea - if it's not obvious from the documentation then someone else
will probably run into the same problem in future and (if they have a
brain cell) will Google to see if it's already been covered.


> 1.
> I have four 'game directories' - I play at two different computers, with
> Nethack and Slash'EM on both.
> Should I have the same "User token" for all the installations, to
> identify me as one unique user, or should I have it different depending
> on which game I'm using, or different for all four hearses?

I need to rewrite the documentation on this - I see it's not clear
enough.

The short answer is use the same user ID in each: just copy hearse.exe
and hearse.ini to each directory and edit the bones and save directories
appropriately.


The longer answer:
The user token is used to uniquely identify you. It's used to track
your Hearse client version, what bones you've uploaded, what bones
you've downloaded, etc etc.

There's no problem using the same user token to upload different types
of bones files - the server keeps track of what ones you're uploading
and offers you the same type back when you try to download. As long as
you're not running more than one instance of Hearse with the same user
ID simultaneously, everything will work fine.

Now, if you have more than one user token (and so multiple user IDs),
the only problems you have are that one user ID may be offered a file
that another user ID has already downloaded, and that you will not be
properly credited on the stats pages, for example, you may not appear on
the top 10 uploaders list even though your combined user IDs may have
uploaded enough bones to put you at the top of the list. If something
major happens so all Hearse users need to be emailed (e.g. the service
is about to stop permanently), then you may receive multiple emails.
That's about it.

So it's entirely up to you: copy the same user ID into each or not, as
you please.


> I understand that Hearse uses HTTP to send and retrieve data. Does it
> use some non-standard port for this?
> Hearse currently works fine at one of the computers mentioned above, and
> not at all at the other. The latter one is behind a firewall setup which
> among many things does not allow protocols over non-standard ports.

No - Hearse just uses port 80. It relies on Wininet to do the dirty
work so it should use whatever proxy settings that computer uses.

HTH

-- A.

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[Alexis]

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me@privacy.net wrote:
> The short answer is use the same user ID in each: just copy hearse.exe
> and hearse.ini to each directory and edit the bones and save directories
> appropriately.

I should add to this - if anyone has multiple user IDs and wants to
merge them into one, if they let me know the user IDs and the one they
want to use then I can take care of combining the server data.

I can see people who have registered multiple user IDs from the same
email address, but obviously I can't combine them because I don't know
whether they've got a computer in some random location which is set up
to use one of the additional user IDs.

-- A.

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[seraphim]

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Alexis <me@privacy.net> wrote in
news:42fa24f7$0$75751$65c69314@mercury.nildram.net:

> me@privacy.net wrote:
>> The short answer is use the same user ID in each: just copy
>> hearse.exe and hearse.ini to each directory and edit the bones and
>> save directories appropriately.
>
> I should add to this - if anyone has multiple user IDs and wants to
> merge them into one, if they let me know the user IDs and the one
> they want to use then I can take care of combining the server data.
>
> I can see people who have registered multiple user IDs from the same
> email address, but obviously I can't combine them because I don't
> know whether they've got a computer in some random location which is
> set up to use one of the additional user IDs.

What if we don't know what our user ids are?

 

[Guest]

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After going to <http://tinyurl.com/2tnqw>
Alexis <me@privacy.net> wrote

>kristoffer.bjorkman@frontnet.org wrote:
>> Directed at Alexis, though I post them here so perhaps someone else can
>> learn from my Annoying Questions.
>
>Good idea - if it's not obvious from the documentation then someone else
>will probably run into the same problem in future and (if they have a
>brain cell) will Google to see if it's already been covered.
>
>
>> 1.
>> I have four 'game directories' - I play at two different computers, with
>> Nethack and Slash'EM on both.
>> Should I have the same "User token" for all the installations, to
>> identify me as one unique user, or should I have it different depending
>> on which game I'm using, or different for all four hearses?
>
>I need to rewrite the documentation on this - I see it's not clear
>enough.
>
>The short answer is use the same user ID in each: just copy hearse.exe
>and hearse.ini to each directory and edit the bones and save directories
>appropriately.

Would it be possible to have more than one bones directory listed?
i.e. have entries for nethack and slash'em:

bones directory
c:\games\nethack
save directory
c:\games\nethack\save
date last used
????????

bones directory
c:\games\slashem
save directory
c:\games\slashem\save
date last used
????????
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[Alexis]

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gme6@cornell.edu wrote:
> Alexis <me@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:42fa24f7$0$75751$65c69314@mercury.nildram.net:
> > I should add to this - if anyone has multiple user IDs and wants to
> > merge them into one, if they let me know the user IDs and the one
> > they want to use then I can take care of combining the server data.
> >
> > I can see people who have registered multiple user IDs from the same
> > email address, but obviously I can't combine them because I don't
> > know whether they've got a computer in some random location which is
> > set up to use one of the additional user IDs.
>
> What if we don't know what our user ids are?

Well, you can always root through the config files for the user
tokens...

But there's nothing wrong with people emailing me saying "I'm pretty
sure I have a fair few user IDs but I've reformatted my computer seven
times so I don't need the old ones. I registered under email address
<foo> each time", and I'll do the dirty work of finding their user
tokens and which one they're currently using. That's fine - as long as
they *are* sure that there's no old installation of Hearse on another
machine that is relying on those old user tokens working.

It's the people who put random gibberish into the email field that I
won't be able to help, but then, they're warned about exactly that when
they sign up.

-- A.

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[Alexis]

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jerk-o@yomomma.org wrote:
> Would it be possible to have more than one bones directory listed?
> i.e. have entries for nethack and slash'em:

Well, I'm always open to suggestions for future versions. Currently you
need a hearse.ini (and a hearse.exe in the same directory) for each
NH/variant install you have.

Out of interest, why is the current setup a problem? If you use nhh.bat
(obviously you'd need to edit it for Slash'em), then Hearse will be
called after you finish a game in whatever version you play. Multiple
INI files also allows you to have different settings for each roguelike
you play, without making the INI file more complex.

-- A.

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