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This really stunk.
I lost my most recent promising character deep in Gehennom, to Asmodeus.
Come to find out, I didn't have cold resistance. I know I'd eaten a ton
of winter wolf/blue jelly corpses, and I thought I'd gotten the "You
don't feel cold!" message at some point, so I was sure I had it. I don't
recall hearing any gremlins chuckle. Evidently I missed something
somewhere.[1]
It was a wierd fight, and I missed several opportunities to avoid the
whole thing. First of all, Asmodeus offered me the chance to bribe him,
and I gave him a single zorkmid as a deliberate insult. Hey, I had 229
hp, AC -32 (-35 when wearing a shield), wielding +7 Frost Brand
(alternating with +3 Longbow of Diana shooting +6 blessed arrows), and
nothing was touching me. I'd just done the same thing to Baalzebub with
barely a scratch.
Anyway, I'd pulled him downstairs, so now I was standing on the
upstairs, whacking away. And he wasn't going down nearly as fast as I
had expected. He was also teleporting just on the other side of the maze
walls--and I thought he could only teleport to the upstairs, and I was
standing on those. So what gives? He kept trying to zap me with wands,
which were mostly just whizzing by.[1] Eventually, out of eyeshot, he
zapped a wand of digging and dropped down a hole. I went in after him.
After evidently using up his useless wands, all of a sudden, "The
invisible Asmodeus casts a spell. You're covered in frost!" And I lose
over 100 hp. Uh oh. I try to zap cancellation at him. He freezes me
again, and I'm at 11 hp. So I teleport out, hoping to have enough time
to pull my potions of full healing out of my pack (and hoping to hit
where I recalled him teleporting to--which would hopefully be the
stairs). He teleports back next to me, one more spell, and dywypi?
For anyone who wants the gory details, the dump is at
http://alt.org/nethack/dumplog/schoolmann.lastgame.txt
and the final installment can be viewed at
http://alt.org/nethack/ttyrec/schoolmann/2005-08-23.03:39:18.ttyrec
[1] Actually, I just rewatched this ttyrec file. I *did* get the "You
don't feel cold" message, while fighting Asmodeus (turn 45281), when he
zapped a wand of cold at me. So now I really don't know how I lost.
Anyway, it used to be that if I got past the Quest, I had the game in
the bag. Actually, by the time I did Sokoban and the Mines, got a supply
of holy water, and identified my gear, I was pretty confident. But more
recently I've had a string of characters that made it pretty far, only
to get killed. Bob the Tourist made it down to the VS, only to get blown
up on the Castle drawbridge from an elf with a wand of striking. Hawkeye
the Healer choked on a spotted jelly, because he thought he might be
able to get a resistance from it. Another Hawkeye was drowned on the
Quest because he didn't realize that electric eels could drown you.
Ibanez the Samurai got Wand-of-Deathed on the Quest because he had found
no sources of MR or reflection by that point, and it was try the Quest
or fight a hostile Titan.
I know the individual mistakes I made in each game. What I don't know is
why I've suddenly had such a string of developed characters dying.
Anyone else go through that?
--
Kevin Wayne
"I like to think you killed a man. It's the romantic in me."
--Captain Renault
This really stunk.
I lost my most recent promising character deep in Gehennom, to Asmodeus.
Come to find out, I didn't have cold resistance. I know I'd eaten a ton
of winter wolf/blue jelly corpses, and I thought I'd gotten the "You
don't feel cold!" message at some point, so I was sure I had it. I don't
recall hearing any gremlins chuckle. Evidently I missed something
somewhere.[1]
It was a wierd fight, and I missed several opportunities to avoid the
whole thing. First of all, Asmodeus offered me the chance to bribe him,
and I gave him a single zorkmid as a deliberate insult. Hey, I had 229
hp, AC -32 (-35 when wearing a shield), wielding +7 Frost Brand
(alternating with +3 Longbow of Diana shooting +6 blessed arrows), and
nothing was touching me. I'd just done the same thing to Baalzebub with
barely a scratch.
Anyway, I'd pulled him downstairs, so now I was standing on the
upstairs, whacking away. And he wasn't going down nearly as fast as I
had expected. He was also teleporting just on the other side of the maze
walls--and I thought he could only teleport to the upstairs, and I was
standing on those. So what gives? He kept trying to zap me with wands,
which were mostly just whizzing by.[1] Eventually, out of eyeshot, he
zapped a wand of digging and dropped down a hole. I went in after him.
After evidently using up his useless wands, all of a sudden, "The
invisible Asmodeus casts a spell. You're covered in frost!" And I lose
over 100 hp. Uh oh. I try to zap cancellation at him. He freezes me
again, and I'm at 11 hp. So I teleport out, hoping to have enough time
to pull my potions of full healing out of my pack (and hoping to hit
where I recalled him teleporting to--which would hopefully be the
stairs). He teleports back next to me, one more spell, and dywypi?
For anyone who wants the gory details, the dump is at
http://alt.org/nethack/dumplog/schoolmann.lastgame.txt
and the final installment can be viewed at
http://alt.org/nethack/ttyrec/schoolmann/2005-08-23.03:39:18.ttyrec
[1] Actually, I just rewatched this ttyrec file. I *did* get the "You
don't feel cold" message, while fighting Asmodeus (turn 45281), when he
zapped a wand of cold at me. So now I really don't know how I lost.
Anyway, it used to be that if I got past the Quest, I had the game in
the bag. Actually, by the time I did Sokoban and the Mines, got a supply
of holy water, and identified my gear, I was pretty confident. But more
recently I've had a string of characters that made it pretty far, only
to get killed. Bob the Tourist made it down to the VS, only to get blown
up on the Castle drawbridge from an elf with a wand of striking. Hawkeye
the Healer choked on a spotted jelly, because he thought he might be
able to get a resistance from it. Another Hawkeye was drowned on the
Quest because he didn't realize that electric eels could drown you.
Ibanez the Samurai got Wand-of-Deathed on the Quest because he had found
no sources of MR or reflection by that point, and it was try the Quest
or fight a hostile Titan.
I know the individual mistakes I made in each game. What I don't know is
why I've suddenly had such a string of developed characters dying.
Anyone else go through that?
--
Kevin Wayne
"I like to think you killed a man. It's the romantic in me."
--Captain Renault
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