Intel vs. intel in MPEG decoding/encoding

Well guess the ATi radeon 2 has Hardware MPEG4 thank to the Rage theater 2 !!! Have fun with your GeForce 3 card's and running program's for hours for 1 movie. Hardware MPEG4 turn's Hours into Minutes.

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ATI AIW Solutions have alwasy been good.....
Radeon II will be even better....
I heard ATI is goign to release a chipset with UMA....I don;t know if thats true, but if it is, that would be sweet ass...... =)
Radeon II with Hardware MPEG4 will just smash everything else into ity bitty pieces

-MeTaL RoCkEr
My <font color=red> Z28 </font color=red> can take your <font color=blue> P4 </font color=blue> off the line!

I didnt appreciate that re-mark....

How can you be so sure BTW ?
After you modify it.....Were talkign about STOCK components here.....not personally modified....

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Crash are you sure it's not to the Hard drive?
decoding to the monitor, would be like what the current radeon has for DVD playback. I guess we'll have to wait and see when it's released!

Sorry metalrocker, that remark wasn't aimed at u at all, but rather to teh Ati company in general. I simply can't find why the hell anyone would buy an Ati if they want performance, or even value; I mean a Gf2 original beats a 64 MB Radeon!! What kind of crap does Ati pull. In addition, I am sure that the highly touted Radeon 2 will be yet another piece of junk that NVidia will crush; for gaming anyway. Ati deviates from what most games are designed for; since NVidia is currently the market leader and games are geared towards them, it would seem a better strategy for Ati to enhance their video cards with the same things as NVidia, simply making better chips along the way. Then I'd buy an Ati, but currently they aren't optimized for games, and hence suck.

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Yeah when ATi does release there UMA Dual Channel P4 chipset you'll start to back pedal.

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so - did we basically decide you are correct and it does have MPEG4 encoding, or did we decide you are wrong and it only has MPEG4 decoding.

The former is a big 'wow', hardware based MPEG4 encoding would be really cool. The latter is a big 'do we really care', since MPEG4 decoding is not a great overhead on today's systems and it will still take many many hours to DIVx encode a movie with our cpu...

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well, it is possible to do encoding in a chip, this is the most efficient way and you can do it using a setup that is hardware enabled to do it (i.e. don't encode in software on the cpu.) Think hardware based MPEG-1/2 capture.

I think the reason it is not really out there is partially copyright and partially waiting for standards to settle. I'm sure the chip is fully possible, but I think it would still be too expensive and a legal pitfall...

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ENcoding is NOT limited by the harddisk. ENcoding is limited manly by fsb and cpu.

I never said it wasn't possible. I tried to make that clear, but obviously didn't do a good enough job.

Anyhow, I still think that it'd be easier to use a 1GHz CPU (for example), than a 250MHz GPU. Even though hardware ENcoding would be faster (per MHz), the hugely faster CPU would outweigh the benefits of the card.

Oh, and I agree that there'd probably be too many legal issues, etc. for it to be worthwhile.

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