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AMD Athlon 1.4 Vs P4 1.8

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August 3, 2001 5:42:26 PM

I've been reading some of the post and some of you are saying that the P4 1.8 is faster than the 1.4 Athlon.
Show me your benchmarks and proof I don't believe this statement to be true at all. Where are your links????
And I'm talking about consistent wins in benchmarks not 1 or 2!

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August 3, 2001 5:44:53 PM

They aren't posted because they don't exist, except for video editing, which I heard a P4 is better in.

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August 3, 2001 5:48:12 PM

How much i have see for myself 5.

Anadtech new benchmark with TUTU look for the score of p4 1.8 easy win.Tomshardware in german made a benchmark with P4 1.8 an he win too.............
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August 3, 2001 6:07:36 PM

I said P4 Bench Marks not P3! not interested in Tully benchs! Hmm Raystonn where are you, since it's was in most of your post also? also anyone on this Forum have a P4 1.4
I would like to see some benchs on equal clock speed!
August 5, 2001 2:51:52 AM

Have some computer knowlege
August 5, 2001 10:37:32 PM

I don't remember where I read a comparison review...reputable too, that the P4 1.8 won about 2/3 of the benchmarks....in part due to the SSE code. I suspect a 1.4 Palomino will again take top honors over a P4 1.8

Mark-

When all else fails, throw your computer out the window!!!
August 5, 2001 11:03:16 PM

I *think* there won't be any desktop 1.4Ghz Palominos, as they will debut at 1.5Ghz - but one can always underclock :lol: 


How terrible is wisdom when it brings no profit to the wise
August 6, 2001 12:26:32 AM

The T=bird 1.4 beats the P4 1.7, but the 1.8 gains a slight edge in a bunch of benchmarks. It really depends on what you're doing though. As far as I'm concerned the benchmarking difference is negligable. I'm not a CPU snobb, I buy based on my needs and price performace. The P4 doesn't meet any of those. You'd have to use certain specific software packages to notice the speed difference.

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August 6, 2001 1:50:44 AM

Point taken Arbee.

But be that as it may, a 1.4 Palomino if one was to be released, would likely outperform a P4 1.8ghz.

Mark-

When all else fails, throw your computer out the window!!!
August 6, 2001 12:57:02 PM

I posted alot of benchmarks in "jump to amd" which show the 1.4 and 1.8 neck and neck. The a4 would pull ahead with its extra capabilities.

~Matisaro~
"Friends don't let friends buy Pentiums"
~Tbird1.3@1.55~
August 6, 2001 2:14:02 PM

>I posted alot of benchmarks in "jump to amd" which show the 1.4 and 1.8 neck and neck.

liar!

btw, are you grizely1?

"<b>AMD/VIA!</b>...you are <i>still</i> the weakest link, good bye!"
August 6, 2001 2:27:22 PM

The benchmarks are there troll, if you need fugger can translate them into retardese for you to understand them.

I am not grizley1.

As for calling me a liar, kiss my ass the benchmarks are posted right there for everyone to see you are full of crap.

~Matisaro~
"Friends don't let friends buy Pentiums"
~Tbird1.3@1.55~
August 6, 2001 2:29:48 PM

apparently theyre starting at 1.2ghz... but anyway...

you do not strengthen the weak by weakening the strong
August 6, 2001 3:13:24 PM

Where did you see that?

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August 6, 2001 4:18:31 PM

dont remember.... maybe in a dream... but i remember something about the A4 being released as a 1.2

you do not strengthen the weak by weakening the strong
August 6, 2001 4:22:50 PM

mobile a4 perhaps?


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August 6, 2001 4:25:43 PM

no desktop... mobiles being released even lower... 1ghz i think maybe 900

you do not strengthen the weak by weakening the strong
August 6, 2001 4:46:35 PM

what the [-peep-] are you talking about
until you learn to type in english don't post in my thread!
August 6, 2001 8:34:12 PM

Just for the record, I don't trust any reviews where they don't cite the setup very specifically. It'd be nice if you could run benchmarks on just a processor, without any other components, but that's sadly impossible.

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August 6, 2001 9:15:04 PM

Ya but even then, it wouldn't be useful data. Because you aren't just going to have the processor as ur computer. This is very apparent in memory types where (currently) the P4 uses a completely different type of memory. So u can't say which chip is better because some chips or chipsets use different components (how long IS the list of problematic hardware with AMD chips?). Although benchmarks are slowly showing less and less. LOL, i remember reading a story by Tom about chip speeds and he was using the RAM memory test as the sole benchmark for chip comparisons. I thought that was kind of funny. I like real world data, but sadly that is only available by testing urself :) 

Althons and Pentiums are just melted rock. Who’s rock is better? Who cares, let’s play some games
August 6, 2001 10:45:11 PM

Yeah, I know that's impractical. I was just (trying) to make a point.

And BTW, I haven't had any hardware/software conflicts with my Athlon system.
Well, the normal M$ bugs and such, but let me say that I've had far, far less problems with my homemade Athlon than my parents P3 Dell.

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August 7, 2001 6:17:22 AM

Like K6-2 sometime does bad pixel rendering in Flask-mpeg due to probleme in the manufacturing processe and the probleme have never been solve.

My katmai right now 450*505 pc 100 cas 2 (cas 2 i have change it to 2 myself)

I have never format my HHD no driver update until this week, I have update the bios too this week.Can you say much with you t-bird and me computer is 3 year old (i think is 3 year).The little katmai have allwayse run fast and stable never got a probleme.
August 7, 2001 7:39:20 AM

Athlon MP were released @ 1.2Ghz. Athlon4 for desktop is suposed to be released @ 1.5Ghz


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August 7, 2001 7:39:42 AM

my parents went out and bought a katami once without me knowing it. They could have had a much faster athlon for the same money. I realy got angry when I found out:-(

The katami (450) have a hard time with divx movies today. An athlon would have no problem with todays software.

Thats the price you have to pay if you go with intel!
August 7, 2001 8:46:48 AM

mp was released at 1.0 and 1.2 at the same time... mybe theyll release the 1.2 and 1.5 at the same time... mmm... imagine how nice itd be if they announced it would start with 150/300 fsb available... pc2400 ddr... to its maximum potential...

you do not strengthen the weak by weakening the strong
August 7, 2001 9:36:46 AM

"For the most part, the Pentium 4 at 1.8GHz is able to remain competitive or offer greater performance than the Athlon 1.4." - andandtech

Which I take to mean are running neck and neck.

~Matisaro~
"Friends don't let friends buy Pentiums"
~Tbird1.3@1.55~
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August 7, 2001 2:40:34 PM

>My katmai right now 450*505 pc 100 cas 2 (cas 2 i have
>change it to 2 myself)

WOOOW, go figure... ladies and gentlemen, we have an EXPERT on this board. Not only is he able to perform such a miraculous overclock, he even managed to get into the BIOS, change a setting, and reboot !! all by himself !!!

Man... I mean, Juin,... how on earth did you find that "del" button on your keyboard.. You really, really impressed me.

---- Owner of the only Dell computer with an AMD chip
August 7, 2001 7:40:08 PM

Actually, rumor has it that AMD is pushing to 1.6 ghz...but they should scale from 1.6ghz down to around 1.2ghz is my guess. I doubt they would release ONLY at 1.5 or 1.6ghz as Pally should command a higher price across the board than TBird.

I guess time will tell..and AMD's desktop Pally release will reveal all :>

Mark-

When all else fails, throw your computer out the window!!!
August 7, 2001 7:47:51 PM

Never updated a driver? Let me guess, you never updated DirectX in 3 years either?

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August 8, 2001 12:27:19 AM

well the latest revision of the 1.4 is reputed to reach up to 1.7 (www.athlonoc.com), i imagine that the A4 with its 20% more efficient core could easily reach 2G. all in due time of course.

with the current 1.4 scaling well against the P4 AMD isnt pushing themselves. see how long the 1.4 has been out now with no replacement?


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August 8, 2001 1:41:57 AM

It's pretty sad that we're even comparing the two anyway. There's a difference of 400 MEGAHERTZ. Think about that. What if a 500mhz Athlon was almost as fast as a 900mhz P3?

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August 8, 2001 3:16:49 AM

ok for directx and graphic driver
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August 8, 2001 3:33:37 AM

They are more or less 50:50.
but consider this, 562$ or 151$??? I dont think a very slight edge in DX8 games justifies the 411$ price diffrence, you can have 2 amd computers or one intel cpu for that price.
and for the record tha athlon creames the 1.8gig in media editing and mp3 decoding and older gamers like MTTR and UT and Serious Sam.
Whether its faster or not, u decide if its worth the extra 400 bucks...I know intel gonna make it 20 bla bla.
and BTW in SMP appz the dual 1.2 creames the dual 1.7 P4 Xeon.


"Bad c0p no doughnut"
August 8, 2001 11:09:26 AM

Thats right, leading me to the conclusion, anyone who buys a p4 wasted their money.

~Matisaro~
"Friends don't let friends buy Pentiums"
~Tbird1.3@1.55~
August 8, 2001 4:35:29 PM

Quote:
What if a 500mhz Athlon was almost as fast as a 900mhz P3?

Or if a 50MHz Athlon was as fast as a 550MHz Pentium? To take it to the extreme :) 

But it should be percentage-wise, so that would be like a 200MHz Athlon and a 300MHz Pentium. Suddenly it doesn't seem like that much of a difference.
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