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August 13, 2001 10:20:06 PM

Ok, im a graphic artist who needs a computer with the biggest balls a computer is legally allowed to have.

So far i have decided to invest in a dual processor MOBO with a pair of balls in the shape of 1.4ghz tbirds.

My question is, has anyone tried this beast and how stable is it? Also what motherboards and chipsets are available on the market? Any special consideration i must make before i slap this thing together?

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August 13, 2001 10:28:54 PM

Well, first thing you should be aware of is that dual 1.4s (Athlon) on AMD are not supported. They _may_ work, however the fastest supported SMP chip AMD have out right now is the 1.2MP.

We are kind of on the cusp of the next generation of dual cpu machines. A dual tualatin board should give you good mileage, or the later dual Foster (I think) Pentium 4 based chips. The current P4 Xeons are no better than the desktop chip in my opinion.

AMD will probably get some good stuff out soon (once Via produce an SMP board) but until then they are very limited I think.

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August 13, 2001 11:42:07 PM

Hmmm, well im not going to jump on it too soon, right now im waiting for nforce.

Damn it, i want to use htm here.
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August 13, 2001 11:42:28 PM

Well, we do know that 1.33GHz T-birds do hold up in SMP mode. T-birds have always been SMP capable, it's just the AthlonMP is the only one AMD has validated. The AthlonMP 1.2 actually holds its own VERY well, even against 1.33GHz T-birds and 1.7GHz Xeons.

As for motherboards, there's only one motherboard currently capable of dual Athlons, and that's the Tyan Thunder K7. Nota bene: this motherboard also requires a proprietary power supply.

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August 14, 2001 3:15:22 AM

Nota bene: this motherboard also requires a proprietary power supply.

Anatech have made a rewiew of there old Dual mp.There were some """"probleme""" with the custom power supply.Not sure it been long time that i have read.
August 14, 2001 3:17:50 AM

I hope for you that you dont have some much expectation with nforce.Right now is just a good name.

dont forget that you will pay high for there chipset and they allready have a graphic card onboard.
August 14, 2001 7:19:22 AM

I remember there were only two or three companies that produced it, but I certainly don't remember serious "****probleme****". Supposedly a couple of the pins are flipped (apparently AMD+Tyan were working off an incomplete spec), and the whole shebang is designed to supply far more power to the AGP slot than most AGP cards really need (something along the lines of 110W). Everything was still perfectly stable and did some nice Xeon rippage.

There was the little hitch that it requires registered DIMMs, but just to clue you in, that's a very common requirement on server boards.

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August 14, 2001 8:18:41 AM

theres the tyan chipset.... someone ocd their 1.2s to 1.497 so something thereabouts... id wait for a month... the nforce does not support smp so i see no reason to wait for it...

if in doubt blame microsoft...
August 14, 2001 8:46:51 AM

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dont forget that you will pay high for there chipset and they allready have a graphic card onboard.

With Dolby Digital 5.1 Sound, but I think it's worth it. To a lot of users, Integrated GeForce2 MX-400 is much better than current ones.
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August 14, 2001 3:48:38 PM

There are currently 2 AthlonMP boards. The Tyan Thunder one (what everyone is talking about), and the Tyan Tiger one (out within the week, apparently). The Tiger doesn't need a proprietary power supply. The PSU for the Thunder is around $100.



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August 15, 2001 4:35:40 PM

What are you talking about? I have a Thunder K7 right here and I see no reason to use a custom/proprietary PSU.

Can you give me some specifics on this?
August 15, 2001 5:21:38 PM

Is it an Athlon MP board?



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August 16, 2001 9:24:31 AM

Well of course it is :) 

If what you mean by custom PSU is that the one that comes with most cases isn't up to snuff, then yeah. I did buy a 465W PSU to run the thing. I just didn't consider it to be proprietary or custom.
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August 17, 2001 12:44:50 PM

Hey sorry I took so long to respond...I got a wee bit busy.

Ummm...I must have missed something here. All I know is that my Thunder K7 mobo has 24pin/8pin connectors, and my PSU has 24pin/8pin connectors.

Anyway, maybe I'm just missing some crucial bit of info on this topic. But my PSU seems just fine to me.

Cheers!
August 17, 2001 1:57:09 PM

Urm... where did you get the info about the Tiger? Do you have specs?
August 17, 2001 3:52:09 PM

Sphynx, there are PSUs that have 24/8 pin connectors, but they're made specifically for this type of thing. In other words, they're proprietary.

I do have info, but I've misplaced it. I looked for it, but couldn't find it. I'll dig it up again, not to worry.

Found a decent amount of info over at <A HREF="http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/story.html?id=996098640" target="_new">X-bit Labs</A>


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August 17, 2001 8:01:00 PM

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</font color=green> Don’t forget to read the recommendations related to processors and chipsets that are on your graphics software CD in ReadMe or Install/ Setup *.txt files.

When I was trying to install SolidWorks on my AMD-based machine first time, the install had failed, pointig the problem: “AMD processor”. I had to wait for the patch for some time.
But don’t worry too much: Intel is not absolutely bug-free also.
August 17, 2001 10:40:20 PM

They're marked as out of stock, which means they probably have pre-ordered them from AMD, but since AMD hasn't released them yet, they don't have them.



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August 18, 2001 1:33:57 AM

all enermax psu's come with an extra 8 pin power connector
hence not proprietary
just not generic
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