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Anonymous   03-12-2005 at 02:02:02 AM

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I use Backupman and Cardbackup to backup my T3 onto an SD card. Neither of
them seem to have any password protection system for a restore, so even if
used a locking system to lock my palm (eg with Teal Lock), all my data could
be put onto the same palm with a hard reset and a data restore.
Have I got that right?
Mick

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Anonymous   03-12-2005 at 01:19:23 PM
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Penster wrote:

> I use Backupman and Cardbackup to backup my T3 onto an SD card. Neither of
> them seem to have any password protection system for a restore, so even if
> used a locking system to lock my palm (eg with Teal Lock), all my data
> could be put onto the same palm with a hard reset and a data restore.
> Have I got that right?
> Mick
I don't know anything about Cardbackup. Backupman doesn't offer secure
backups, that's why I don't use it to backup to the card I keep in my
handheld. I only use it to backup to a card that stays in the office when I
go home at night.

For secure (encrypted) backups, I use BackupBuddyVFS. TealBackup also offers
such backups, but it's so awfully slow, it's not worth it at all.

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Alan   03-12-2005 at 08:04:54 PM
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"Penster" <xxx@xxx.com> wrote in message
news:_OmYd.1707$Zu1.1589@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> I use Backupman and Cardbackup to backup my T3 onto an SD card. Neither of
> them seem to have any password protection system for a restore, so even if
> used a locking system to lock my palm (eg with Teal Lock), all my data
could
> be put onto the same palm with a hard reset and a data restore.
> Have I got that right?
> Mick
>
>

I keep any data I want secure in SplashID. The data is encrypted, and just
doing a normal sync backs up the already encrypted data. Of course, this
won't work if you need everything encrypted, but if all you are concerened
abouyt are id/passwords and a few other bits, this works great.

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Anonymous   03-12-2005 at 10:27:29 PM
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Alan
Thanks.
mick
"Alan" <not.me@uhuh.rcn.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Penster" <xxx@xxx.com> wrote in message
> news:_OmYd.1707$Zu1.1589@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> > I use Backupman and Cardbackup to backup my T3 onto an SD card. Neither
of
> > them seem to have any password protection system for a restore, so even
if
> > used a locking system to lock my palm (eg with Teal Lock), all my data
> could
> > be put onto the same palm with a hard reset and a data restore.
> > Have I got that right?
> > Mick
> >
> >
>
> I keep any data I want secure in SplashID. The data is encrypted, and just
> doing a normal sync backs up the already encrypted data. Of course, this
> won't work if you need everything encrypted, but if all you are concerened
> abouyt are id/passwords and a few other bits, this works great.
>
>

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Anonymous   03-13-2005 at 01:15:23 AM
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"Penster" <xxx@xxx.com> wrote in
news:_OmYd.1707$Zu1.1589@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net:

> I use Backupman and Cardbackup to backup my T3 onto an SD card.
> Neither of them seem to have any password protection system for a
> restore, so even if used a locking system to lock my palm (eg with
> Teal Lock), all my data could be put onto the same palm with a hard
> reset and a data restore. Have I got that right?

True. One more reason I don't trust sensitive data to be anywhere
unencrypted. I use Keyring, Cryptopad, and Secret! to keep data
encrypted, so the backup only backs up data that is already encrypted.
If I need to encrypt individual fields in individual databases, CCrypt
does that.

I don't want or need encrypted backups, because there is nothing on my
Palm in plain text that I worry about anyone else having. If it's
sensitive, it's already encrypted, on the Palm, on the card, and on the
PC.

--
Regards,

Stan

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." B. Franklin

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Anonymous   03-15-2005 at 06:56:24 AM
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Penster wrote:

> I use Backupman and Cardbackup to backup my T3 onto an SD card. Neither of
> them seem to have any password protection system for a restore, so even if
> used a locking system to lock my palm (eg with Teal Lock), all my data
> could be put onto the same palm with a hard reset and a data restore.
> Have I got that right?
> Mick

Check out mEncryptor from Toysoft (www.toysoft.ca) - it's under products /
security. I simply do a backup and then encrypt it. It takes awhile to do
but I feel much happier knowing that all the data is encrypted, even though
all sensitive data is kept with Keyring and not a plain text anyway.

Andrew

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Anonymous   03-23-2005 at 09:42:09 PM
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Penster napsal(a):
> I use Backupman and Cardbackup to backup my T3 onto an SD card. Neither of
> them seem to have any password protection system for a restore, so even if
> used a locking system to lock my palm (eg with Teal Lock), all my data could
> be put onto the same palm with a hard reset and a data restore.
> Have I got that right?
> Mick

Are you sure the data will be freely available? Both my recent T3 and
now the T5 require a reset after restore and return to the backed up
state, eg. locked up and asking for a password.
Mark

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Anonymous   03-23-2005 at 03:06:58 PM
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Penster wrote:
>
> I use Backupman and Cardbackup to backup my T3 onto an SD card. Neither of
> them seem to have any password protection system for a restore, so even if
> used a locking system to lock my palm (eg with Teal Lock), all my data could
> be put onto the same palm with a hard reset and a data restore.
> Have I got that right?

Have a look at http://toysoft.ca/xforcer.html
and/or http://toysoft.ca/mencryptor.html.

Notan

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