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Last year I went out one or two evenings to try calling roe but it was a
total disaster. Only the midges gained anything. However, I did some more
research recently and gather the evening is NOT the time to attempt to call
roe, I need to go between late morning and mid afternoon (when,
coincidently, the midge factor is at its lowest).

Am I right in thinking that mid July to mid August is the best period?

It is one solid impenitrable mass of green up here, but I did see four roe
yesterday around midday when I was driving around on the quad.

Derry

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Derry Argue wrote:
> Last year I went out one or two evenings to try calling roe but it was a
> total disaster. Only the midges gained anything. However, I did some more
> research recently and gather the evening is NOT the time to attempt to call
> roe, I need to go between late morning and mid afternoon (when,
> coincidently, the midge factor is at its lowest).
>
> Am I right in thinking that mid July to mid August is the best period?
>
> It is one solid impenitrable mass of green up here, but I did see four roe
> yesterday around midday when I was driving around on the quad.
>
> Derry
>

In my experience, I find results can vary dramatically.

The best times: This depends upon the type of land and the comings and
goings of the people who use the land. For example, it's of little use
trying to call roe, in the middle of a corn field at harvest time during
the day. Again, just after silage has been cut, calling is less
effective. Late morning is great in woodland that has little or no users
and on woodland verges in lonely roe type places. You need to think
about disturbance and the comings and goings of man. In saying that Roe
are expert at understanding us humans and will put up with a massive
amount of NORMAL disturbance but one odd sound, just out of place and
the roe will be gone.

The Best weather: Hot and humid in my experience. Just before a thunder
storm during late July, even light rain in hot weather. This combination
of humidity and heat seems to get the roes juices going.

The most important thing of all, and if you forget it your chips are up!
The rut must be on BEFORE you start calling roe, if it isn't then your
wasting your time and just educating the deer.
Next is once you call, wait and wait and wait. I have had bucks
following me in the woods! simply because I didn't wait. Sometimes it
takes a long while before a paired buck can get away from his doe and in
the case of a single none paired buck, he might have to travel some
distance before he gets to you, it all takes time but remember that roe
have excellent directional hearing and once you have their attention
they can find your exact position with ease.

The other thing is wind, don't forget what your actually doing. Your
trying to get a buck to come to you, thinking there is a lovely young
lass waiting for his attention, he just might want to scent to make sure
a bigger buck hasn't found the lass first!!!
Another point is that the doe can be very territorial at the rut, she
might follow the call to shoo off any competition with her buck in tow.

Some of the best places to practice calling are "coffee bars", this is
an area where lesser bucks will gather, buck who have yet to rut and may
never rut. Areas like this will almost always produce good results when
calling.

Some other tips for you! If your using a hight seat, try and get a kind
lady to give you some of her urine when her time of the month arrives
(not sure how else I could say that). This stuff is dynamite!!! tip it
under the high seat (works for reds too). Give a few calls and wait!

Anyway, good luck, time for my dinner :)

John

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John <john.p.young*removethislittlebit*@ntlworld.com> wrote in
news:3j7t6uFoeuijU1@individual.net:

> Derry Argue wrote:
>> Last year I went out one or two evenings to try calling roe but it
>> was a total disaster. Only the midges gained anything. However, I did
>> some more research recently and gather the evening is NOT the time to
>> attempt to call roe, I need to go between late morning and mid
>> afternoon (when, coincidently, the midge factor is at its lowest).
>>
>> Am I right in thinking that mid July to mid August is the best
>> period?
>>
>> It is one solid impenitrable mass of green up here, but I did see
>> four roe yesterday around midday when I was driving around on the
>> quad.
>>
>> Derry
>>
>
> In my experience, I find results can vary dramatically.
>
> The best times: This depends upon the type of land and the comings
> and goings of the people who use the land. For example, it's of little
> use trying to call roe, in the middle of a corn field at harvest time
> during the day. Again, just after silage has been cut, calling is less
> effective. Late morning is great in woodland that has little or no
> users and on woodland verges in lonely roe type places. You need to
> think about disturbance and the comings and goings of man. In saying
> that Roe are expert at understanding us humans and will put up with a
> massive amount of NORMAL disturbance but one odd sound, just out of
> place and the roe will be gone.
>
> The Best weather: Hot and humid in my experience. Just before a
> thunder storm during late July, even light rain in hot weather. This
> combination of humidity and heat seems to get the roes juices going.
>
> The most important thing of all, and if you forget it your chips are
> up! The rut must be on BEFORE you start calling roe, if it isn't then
> your wasting your time and just educating the deer.
> Next is once you call, wait and wait and wait. I have had bucks
> following me in the woods! simply because I didn't wait. Sometimes it
> takes a long while before a paired buck can get away from his doe and
> in the case of a single none paired buck, he might have to travel some
> distance before he gets to you, it all takes time but remember that
> roe have excellent directional hearing and once you have their
> attention they can find your exact position with ease.
>
> The other thing is wind, don't forget what your actually doing. Your
> trying to get a buck to come to you, thinking there is a lovely young
> lass waiting for his attention, he just might want to scent to make
> sure a bigger buck hasn't found the lass first!!!
> Another point is that the doe can be very territorial at the rut, she
> might follow the call to shoo off any competition with her buck in
> tow.
>
> Some of the best places to practice calling are "coffee bars", this is
> an area where lesser bucks will gather, buck who have yet to rut and
> may never rut. Areas like this will almost always produce good results
> when calling.
>
> Some other tips for you! If your using a hight seat, try and get a
> kind lady to give you some of her urine when her time of the month
> arrives (not sure how else I could say that). This stuff is
> dynamite!!! tip it under the high seat (works for reds too). Give a
> few calls and wait!
>
> Anyway, good luck, time for my dinner :)
>
> John
>

Thanks, John. Glad you mentioned high seats. I'd much prefer to be in one
for the all round vision.

As for disturbance, I doubt whether the roe on my ground see people much as
it is undisturbed. But that is not saying they are tame!

A good place to try calling would be next to the A9 at Inverness! I kid you
not! Sit on the nak with your back to the road and call away. Lots of roe
where the old land fill site used to be.

But I will leave experimentation for another couple of weeks at least.

(Talk about hot and humid. I could hatch eggs in this heat!).

Derry

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The message <Xns968D9A9951E4Ederryadviegundogscou@130.133.1.4>
from Derry Argue <home@adviegundogs.co.uk> contains these words:

> Last year I went out one or two evenings to try calling roe but it was a
> total disaster. Only the midges gained anything. However, I did some more
> research recently and gather the evening is NOT the time to attempt to call
> roe, I need to go between late morning and mid afternoon (when,
> coincidently, the midge factor is at its lowest).

> Am I right in thinking that mid July to mid August is the best period?

Usually, yes, but it's difficult to pin down the rut to a particular
period. Much depends upon the prevailing weather conditions and being
out at the right time. It can sometimes be short and is often missed,
particularly up here in our part of the world.

I hardly ever see roe showing here. But plenty of young bucks are
showing just now, in places where they are not normally seen and at the
oddest times of the day. I would imagine they have been ejected from the
family unit, probably because the onset of oestrus is now imminent.

--
Kim Sawyer
Sutherland
Scotland

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"Michael Roberts" <mail@dogcountrysports.co.uk> wrote in
news:42d293ae$0$27210$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net:

> I've read in the past that some people suggest you try it out on
> someone else's ground so if you mess it up, you don't educate your own
> deer - that's just about one of the most selfish and self centred
> things to do.

Around here, I'd practice on the east side of the A9 at Inverness, site of
the old council land fill site, if I did not have my own ground. There are
roe in there (I've seen them both from the road and from the train) and I
am pretty sure there will be no stalking as it is just too near the town!

Anyway, I am not getting roe here without calling so might give it a try.

Derry

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