So Intel is now #1 in sales and finallyh #1 in speed, and as always last place in Value. So it's number 1 right? Or does the price make it number 2? But they always go by volume when they list any manufacturer as the industries leader, aka Number 1, so I guess Intel has always been number 1?
TB is cheap and good to clock, but P3 is much more stable and compatible than TB, and P3 is a QUALITY prosessor, you get exactly what you paid for. But this is only my opinion, good processors both.
Winter while I don't disagree with you that the P3 is a stable CPU, the stability issue is more with the chipset than with the CPU. Athlon is just as stable as P3 as is P4. The stability issue some have had has everything to do with the chipset. P3's worked poorly with some P3 based chipsets in 1999 and 2000, just as Athlon works poorly with some Athlon chipsets. However, that is/has been mostly overcome. With comments like the ALi Magick 1 revB0 and SiS 735 becoming the "BX chipsets for Athlon" (meaning inexpensive and STABLE) AND fast, your statement doesn't necessarily mean an Athlon system is less stable than a P3 system. Heck, even the KT 133 and 266 chipsets are pretty stable and compatible now for most things.
So, take stability out of the picture except as how it reflects specific chipsets.
Mark-
When all else fails, throw your computer out the window!!!
Pope, while I appreciate folks' near cult like support o chips, there's no reason to disparage other chips OR other posters to validate your support for your chip of choice.
You can make much more positive and valid statements by keeping the negative (hateful) remarks out of your posts and stick with the actual facts.
Which processor do I prefer?
Athlon.
But does that mean P4 or Tualatin or Itanium or Hammer or whatever CPU don't also have valid advantages?
Nope!
I'm sure many people can appreciate your viewpoint, but a lot MORE could if you refrained from the hateful rhetoric and stuck with a more adult demeanor rather than a "pissiung" contest.
Thanks and I hopefully will look forward to reading more of your posts, just toned down a little.
Mark-
When all else fails, throw your computer out the window!!!
Hey, it happens get over it. It doesn't matter how many Mhz faster or slower if one processor beats the others in bench marks and the other doesn't have a faster one yet then they are #1. AMD will most likely not be #1 for a while. They need to learn to market their procs. better. Intel has the larger bank so they will be on top for a long while whether we like it or not.
What is the difference between <font color=red>pink</font color=red>and <font color=purple>purple</font color=purple>? The <b>GRIP</b>!
All I have to say is buy the processor that suits your needs the most.
1) High speed, generaly perpose machine (some games, word processing, etc) --AMD Athlon (or Duron on real budget)
2) High bandwisth Apps, mpeg encodingm etc P4
3) Low to mid range server- Dual PIII/AthlonMP
4) High end graphics workstation --AthlonMP
5) High end database server with high number of concurrent users, non x86 based CPU (e.g. PA-RISC, SPARC, etc). Due to the fact that x86 processors have not been proven to scale past 8 procs.
I remember BMO too, but resorting to the same tactics as him don't make you any more right than he is. While FUGGER and those like him are annoying, very few people here take him seriously. We all know he is full of it, and have caught him in lies many times. We don't need anyone to come in and "smack him down" for us. If you came here just to continue the "your processor sucks!" vs. "No! Your processor sucks!" debate, then please do us a favor and go back to THE LAB. If you actually want to contribute useful posts, then please stay. I look forward to reading "useful" posts from you in the future.
Well of course it will the only thing im wonder if the 1.13 celeron is coming soon. I heard it can overclock to 1.6ghz at 133fsb easily. Probally the only thing Intel can try to match it with. Well the Athlon 4 will be impressive. Northwood p4 2.2ghz wont proform as fast then 1.533 Athlon 4 (PR????)
pope you are a moron. clock cycles are irrelevant. Intel has already stated the P4 will 10Ghz in the next 3 years or so, and they already demoed 3.5Ghz. AMD is still scrathcing its ass trying to figure out 1.5Ghz. So what if a Asslawn outperforms a P4 clock for clock, when the P4 has such a monsterous speed advantage AMD can piss off.
I am starting to like intel... and am rooting for them.... but with people like u running around ...its hard to like INTEL... why dont u go bleed blood for CYRIX...they need the support
You aren't making much sense first you say clock cycles are irrelevant then you come back and that intel is going to have a monstrous advantage when it comes to clock cycles. Not very bright.
What is the difference between <font color=red>pink</font color=red> and <font color=purple>purple</font color=purple>? The <b>GRIP</b>!
It really Cracks me up when People make statements like
“Northwood p4 2.2ghz wont proform as fast then 1.533 Athlon 4”
Simply put we don’t know that!!!!.
But lets imagine since you like to do that.
A good current Match up is the Intel 1.8 and the AMD 1.4
The Northwood core and features are rumored to add 10% to the Clock per Clock performance.
Compared with the Willi. Lets assume it Debuts at 2.0 I seriously Doubt that the 1.533 AMD would
Compete let alone if the Northwood was at 2.2
you must be FRED and BMO's human semenal maxi-pad.... do u even wipe your mouth when u are done blowing them? or u like spooge caked up in ya goattee... you are sick
Wow man the forum has returned to its true colors poopy, and woody, fuggy, amdmeltdowny, maybe spuddy get back into the grove and start stupid imature flame wars to show my computer buds I have what it takes to lip people off still. Sigh prob not but oh hell later monkey poopy... ehehe.
-Spuddy
<font color=red>Being Evil Is Good. Cause I Can Be A Prick And Get Away With It.</font color=red>
He came back to continue his 3dmark debacle thread, he plans to mad oc his mobo to finally be able to meet scores he spouted off weeks ago, however the conditions he described in his origional post make the score he claimed IMPOSSIBLE, lol, he fried a videocard trying to make good on his bs claims.
~Matisaro~
"Friends don't let friends buy Pentiums"
~Tbird1.3@1.55~
Ah, nevermind, I just read your posts in this thread. Same as ever. Are BMO and Fred coming here too? Man, I was starting to really like this forum too.
If you don't remember, I was FRANKINWALD in the Delphi forums. You may not remember, as I tried to avoid threads in which you were involved.
Please try and keep it sensible here; we have a (generally) good thing going.
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