I currently have 1 computer running a P2 400 processor. I am wondering, what options do I have for upgrading my processor without replacing the MB.
Also, I want to know if the initial Slot-1 P-3 processors would work on my system. I don't remember the make/model of my MB, so that may be a question that can't be answered, but in general can P3 Slot-1 processors work on P2 Slot-1 MBs?
Your motherboard can support at least a PIII 600 with the old Katmai core. These are listed as "PIII 512k Cache" on Pricewatch, since the newer 600E has only 256k of the superior on die cache.
And remember, there's always the old option of overclocking a Celeron 333A to 550 at 100MHz FSB, since it had on die cache which could handle the extra speed more easily. Or you could get a PIII overdrive from Evergreen Technologies.
Given more information, I'm sure we could suggest other alternatives. What motherboard do you have?
The motherboard is from Gateway (yeah yeah I know, that's why for my new computer I built it myself) and is listed simply as a TABOR motherboard. Seems pretty generic based off of the original Intel specs for a P2 motherboard.
According to the 'oh-so-easily' found information on Gateway's site regarding this system, the MB that I have is not capable of supporting the P3 coppermine slot-1 processors. In the least, it does make mention that some of the MBs (with higher part numbers) had this ability but it does not specifically mention the one that I have in regards to the P3 slot-1 CPUs. The global statement was that this motherboard supports Pentium II processors with a 100Mhz FSB. I have the latest BIOS upgrade for this board (according to Gateway) which was released in June 2000.
Unfortunately, overclocking is not really viable. I already have heat related issues due to the fact that I don't have central AC and I live in Texas (need an upgrade for life hehe). Ambient room temperature in the summer is around 85F.
Does that leave me with only a 50Mhz upgrade (to a P2-450) or are there other options?
Thanks for the responses and anything further you can add.
Your motherboard can support at least a PIII 600 with the old Katmai core. These are listed as "PIII 512k Cache" on Pricewatch, since the newer 600E has only 256k of the superior on die cache.
Or you could get a PIII overdrive from Evergreen Technologies. You'll find information on their PIII overdrives at <A HREF="http://www.evertech.com/products/performaiiiup.asp" target="_new">http://www.evertech.com/products/performaiiiup.asp</A> These are Coppmines with a specail adapter that allows them to be used on non-Coppermine compatable boards.
Alternatively you can use a similar adapter from Powerleap <A HREF="http://www.digitalriver.com/dr/v2/ec_MAIN.Entry10?xid=35295&SP=10024&PN=16&V1=39385" target="_new">http://www.digitalriver.com/dr/v2/ec_MAIN.Entry10?xid=35295&SP=10024&PN=16&V1=39385</A>. The adapter cost only $49 and allows you to upgrade to any "E" Coppermine, such as the 700E, 750E, 800E, or 850E, or the harder to find 900E or 1000E. I would get the adapter bare from Powerleap and get the processor separately from Pricewatch.
Adapter=$50, New board <$100, I would spend the extr $50 and get a new MB that will also improve performance. Also you can get a Tbird 1400 for the same price as a P3 800, so it would be worth the new MB............
Lotsa luck getting any worthwhile info from Gateway.
Although this isn't really an answer to your question, have you tried re-installing your OS and applications? I've found that after a year or so, most systems slow down due to all the junk we load on them. Uninstalling the stuff doesn't help. I've been pleasantly suprised by the performance of some older systems after I've done a clean install. Just a suggestion.
or even swapping in a new hard drive. the p2-400 was the era of early ata-33 if i remember correctly,
and you will see a monumental performance increase going to a ata66 or 100 7200 rpm drive, even still on the ata33 interface.
and when he DOES decide to fully upgrade he can take the drive with you.
I'll respect your comments & opinions, even if i disagree with them, Provided you display maturity.
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