I'm thinking about purchasing a 1.4 ghz Athlon but beforehand i'd like to know if AMD will be releasing any faster Athlon's in the near future.
Yummy!! so would you advise waiting til the end of October then? i think i'll go ahead and get my 1.4 athlon now as the new Athlons will obviously start off very pricey.
All i need to do now is decide which motherboard to get, the 3 i'm looking at are: Epox 8k7a+, Abit KG7 and Gigabyte GA-7DXR...i can't decide which to get!
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The new ones will be pricey and not all that different from the t-birds. The only REAL difference is full support for SSE. Compare a AthlonMP to a reg. Athlon at the same clock speed and they're not all that different (in terms of performance). The AthlonXP will be a bit of a joke. Only good thing: higher clock speeds, which means they'll be able to compete with high clocked P4's.
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MPJesse, I believe you are mistaken.
At a given clock speed, the new Athlon MP/XP will be as much as 10% faster as compared to an equally clocked Athlon without the SSE instructions. This is in regards to apps that use the instructions (most do).
At a given clock speed, the new Athlon MP/XP will be as much as 10% faster as compared to an equally clocked Athlon without the SSE instructions. This is in regards to apps that use the instructions (most do).
MP the Palomino core offers several improvem ents over Thunderbird
1) SSE support
2) lower power consumption (less heat generated by roughly 20-25%)
3) Redesigned core to improve internal eficiency
4) Data prefetch
These 4 things combine to give Palomino (in MP form right now) a 10% average performance boost. Yes, some things will only be marginally faster per clock, but other things will be MUCH faster per clock.
Of course, we won't know how all this translates to the desktop versions of the CPU until it ships next month and benchmarks are presented by reviewers.
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1) SSE support
2) lower power consumption (less heat generated by roughly 20-25%)
3) Redesigned core to improve internal eficiency
4) Data prefetch
These 4 things combine to give Palomino (in MP form right now) a 10% average performance boost. Yes, some things will only be marginally faster per clock, but other things will be MUCH faster per clock.
Of course, we won't know how all this translates to the desktop versions of the CPU until it ships next month and benchmarks are presented by reviewers.
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I know the differences, but this is what I said:
"Compare a AthlonMP to a reg. Athlon at the same clock speed and they're not all that different (in terms of performance)"
Overall, the only REAL advantage the Palomino has is scalability.
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"Compare a AthlonMP to a reg. Athlon at the same clock speed and they're not all that different (in terms of performance)"
Overall, the only REAL advantage the Palomino has is scalability.
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follow this link:
<A HREF="http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/01q2/010605/760mp-06.html" target="_new">http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/01q2/010605/760mp-06.html</A>
Actually performance advantages are more like in the 1-5% arena. Hardly worth noting. Again, the only real advantage the Palomino has is scalability.
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<A HREF="http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/01q2/010605/760mp-06.html" target="_new">http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/01q2/010605/760mp-06.html</A>
Actually performance advantages are more like in the 1-5% arena. Hardly worth noting. Again, the only real advantage the Palomino has is scalability.
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No offense, but do not put all your faith in one site alone. Tom's is reputable, but I feel myself questioning the outputs of those benchmarks. I have seen and read on numerous other sites showing the Athlon MP (Palamino) showing MUCH (relatively speaking) improved preformace. 10% was range was not uncommon, just an average. Considering SSE is used in more than a few applications, this will be quite a big boost in "free" speed. Also, the new incorporated data prefetch should become a lot more apparent in it's speed boost as time goes on.
In addition, are you forgetting the lower power consumption and lower heat output?
In addition, are you forgetting the lower power consumption and lower heat output?
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Read sharkeys, check out anandtech, many reviewers show the 10-15% bonus across the board. This bonus is by no means small.
Even a 5% increase negates your claim that "the palominos only benifit is scaleability" that is all I am saying.
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Even a 5% increase negates your claim that "the palominos only benifit is scaleability" that is all I am saying.
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Tell me 5% dfoesn't make much difference AFTER benchmarks of Palomino on KT266A based motherboards are put up against P4 2Ghz systems and outperform them on almost every benchmark, Wusy.
While there are no benchmarks like this available yet, a month from now there will be.
In a nutshell...when comparing two different CPUs and chipsets, 5% can mean everything as far as which provides the best performance and which provides the most bang for the buck.
Right now Athlon offers the most bang for the buck and P4 offers best performance. But in a month this may not be the case...Athlon may once again be the top CPU in both categories. I say *may* because we don't know for certain until benchmarks demonstrate one way or the other. We can only estimate based on past performance comparisons of Athlon and Palominos.
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While there are no benchmarks like this available yet, a month from now there will be.
In a nutshell...when comparing two different CPUs and chipsets, 5% can mean everything as far as which provides the best performance and which provides the most bang for the buck.
Right now Athlon offers the most bang for the buck and P4 offers best performance. But in a month this may not be the case...Athlon may once again be the top CPU in both categories. I say *may* because we don't know for certain until benchmarks demonstrate one way or the other. We can only estimate based on past performance comparisons of Athlon and Palominos.
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When all else fails, throw your computer out the window!!!
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