Cpu from bad to good.

[bentmelchior]

It sometimes seem funny to read the threads concerning muscle/cpu power. A lot of people out there still have 500mhz celly/k6-2. I´m pretty sure even a 1.3ghz on a 845mb would be quite an improvement.

My advice don´t forget what you are upgrading from, don´t let the mhz fight get the better of you.

One question....
Which cpu runs at the lowest temperature.
1.7ghz p4
1.4ghz t-bird
I live in a small room and all my gear is constantly turned on (tv-stereo-computer ect.) Every bit of lower temperature counts.

 

[AmdMELTDOWN]

the P4 runs at lower temps with out the need for extravagant cooling solutions and has a beautiful thermal protection mechanism that will save your investment.

"<b>AMD/VIA!</b>...you are <i>still</i> the weakest link, good bye!"

 

[Kelledin]

Last time I checked, the most I could gather was that the Athlon 1.33GHz (.18u) consumes slightly more power than the P4 1.7GHz (.18u). Even that was a rough guesstimate based on an nth-best-polynomial calculation--info was hard to get from either company at the time.

If you want low heat dissipation, I suggest you get a Pentium III. P4's and Athlons at .18u probably consume about the same amount of power to get the same amount of work done--whereas PIII's at .18u consume about half the wattage as an Athlon and only benchmark slightly worse, clock-for-clock. Tualatins should draw even less wattage.

Kelledin

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[bentmelchior]

Iwas wondering if anyone has any comment to my statement, that the for most prople the ghz race is pure overkill..

Thx. for the info on temp...
I´m probably going to upgrade to an intel cpu of somekind.
P3/P4 ( and yes i´m sticking with sd-ram for now!!!!)

 

[Matisaro]

Get a 1ghz tbird, its temps are fine and wont overheat your room, and it will have tons of power. Your only other choice is a 1.3-4ghz p4(in the same heat range) and those chips both suck ass. AND cost twice as much.

~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
~Tbird1.3@1.5~

 

[FatBurger]

I recommend getting Tualatin or Northwood. Tualatin is out now, Northwood should be out soon. Both will generate less heat than an Athlon, or original P3/P4.

Most of us realize that MHz/GHz isn't the only measure of speed. That's ceased to be a debate point (thankfully). But the issue of Intel vs. AMD is something that rages on. Be careful, you don't want to step in the...

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[bentmelchior]

Do you know any sites i can find that says something about cpu temp...
(don´t say tom´s I´m not going to remove the heatsink) lol...

 

[Kelledin]

Both Intel and AMD post datasheets about power consumption et al for their CPUs. Intel's datasheets are usually easy to find at <A HREF="http://support.intel.com/" target="_new">http://support.intel.com/</A> (you'll need Acrobat Reader), but AMD's datasheets have become rather harder to get lately. To get AMD's datasheets, you need two plugins--an Acrobat Reader plugin for your browser, then a SmartPDF plugin for Acrobat. Most of us (including me) already have the Acrobat plugin, but not the SmartPDF plugin; I for one really can't be arsed to go d/l another plugin right now. :tongue:

Kelledin

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[lakedude]

I for one do not think it is overkill. While I do understand that MHz does not translate directly into usable speed, I need all the speed I can get. I'm running a 4 pass mpeg2 to mpeg4 conversion which can take up to 24hours of CPU time at 100% CPU load on a 1.3GHz for one 3 hour movie. More power Scotty!

 

[bentmelchior]

My statement about overkill was obviously not intended for people who did mpeg4 conversion. I meant people doing word/outlook what ever.

I for one am totally hooked on power
"let the Mhz roll" (P4/t-bird)

 

[lhgpoobaa]

possibly.
pure Mhz for Mhz sake (dare i say p4 2Ghz) is a waste.

for those that just cruze the web, read emails, play a bit of music, write word documents, a 500 - 1000Mhz processor sould be more than adequate.

for high end apps and games though grunt is needed... and will continue to be needed as games increase in complexity and eye-candy volume .


but yes... i think the Mhz race is/was a bit pointless

and intel intentionally designing a processor that runs faster but sacrifices efficency is not good design in my books.

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[Matisaro]

Got any kind of evidence to back up that twice the performance of amd statement?



~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
~Tbird1.3@1.5~

 

[Matisaro]

Ack, my bad.

~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
~Tbird1.3@1.5~

 

[FatBurger]

The PIII 866 system:
SiSoft Sandra 2001 Performance Rating was 1020
Mad Onion 3D Mark 2001 was 1072

The P4 1.6 system:
SiSoft Sandra 2001 Performance Rating is 1914
Mad Onion 3D Mark 2001 is 1951

Which specific Sandra test is that?

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[FatBurger]

There's two different CPU tests. I was wondering which is which. The top bar (without the pull-down menu next to it) is your score, the other four are the comparision scores.

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[FatBurger]

Reference System: VIA KT133A/PC133 CL2 SDRAM
Int ALU/RAM Bandwidth: 507MB/s
Float ALU/RAM Bandwidth: 565MB/s

My results on a KT7a-RAID with generic PC133 CAS3 RAM are about 100 higher on each one. Sandra gives averages for some benchmarks, and maximums for others, it seems like.

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[charliec2uk]

I still have a PIII 800 and a TNT2 Ultra, which is posting 1700 2001 3d Marks. (With PC100 SDRAM). So it suits be well enough. Has served me well etc etc. All the same I almost feel attached to it. Will be sorrow to put it out to grass when that 2.2 GHz Northwood and a dual channel DDR solution comes along some time next year. (Please God)

But as a newly started Electronic Eng. Student, it me old system can't quite hack running some of the hard core simulation programmes.