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Anonymous   09-26-2001 at 05:34:44 AM

fellas i just upgraded from an old PIII katamai to a celeron 950 via a slocket, however the cpu utilities i have still says that the multiplier is 6 and the speed is ~600. how do i fix this problem. thanks.

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lhgpoobaa   09-26-2001 at 07:35:33 AM
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hmmms
what does your motherboard support? (look in the manual)
6x may be the highest multiplier it can do...

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Crashman   09-26-2001 at 08:49:45 AM
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That's freeking incredible! Anyone who can underclock by using the multiplier can overclock in a similar manner!
Seriously dude, it's impossible. The Celeron 950 is multiplier locked. Try running WCPUID. At worst your CPU utilities are reading faulty information from the BIOS CPU table, I don't see any way around the fact that you must be running at 9.5x
However, 9.5x 66.6 is 600. That's probably what's going on with your CPU utilities. If WCPUID reports your running 600MHz, it will also report that your bus speed is 66.6MHz. You need to have it set at 100 in BIOS, all Celerons from the 800 up use 100MHz bus speed.

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Anonymous   09-26-2001 at 06:48:25 PM
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If my mobo supported frequency ratio(multipler) to max. 8x I can use only Celeron 800 MHz which multipler is 8x (8x100).Right ?

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Anonymous   09-26-2001 at 11:12:34 PM
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no the wcpuid is showing the bus at 100 , but the multiplier is showing 6. i know i can't change the multiplier but why isn't is board picking up the 9.5. i'm pretty sure the board supports up 2 10 or maybe even 11.

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Crashman   09-26-2001 at 11:20:40 PM
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Damn this is incredible, you must have gooten an unlocked Celeron by mistake or something! Hey, if your motherboard is supporting a 133MHz FSB you could always try running it at 6x133, 800@133 is faster than 950x100 in memory intensive applications.

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Crashman   09-26-2001 at 11:26:13 PM
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I ran a Celeron 633 at 950 (9.5x multiplier) on my older system which only supported a 9x onboard multiplier, it still worked. And I ran a Celeron 533 (8x multiplier) on an old LX motherboard that only supported a 5x multiplier without a problem. Anyway, as long as your board can support Coppermine processors you should have no problem at all with the Celeron 800. In fact it should support even faster Celerons, the full range of them. This guy is the first I've ever heard of who's managed to somehow run it at the motherboard's multiplier instead of the CPU's multiplier. These things are normally multiplier locked and will run at whatever the stock multiplier is regardless of the motherboard.

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Anonymous   09-26-2001 at 11:26:29 PM
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yea i dont think is was a mistake, a buddy of mine works at intel, he gave me the chip. if this is the case how would i change the multiplier, my bios doesn't support a soft menu.

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Crashman   09-26-2001 at 11:49:18 PM
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Gee, uh, if it's not locked you would have to change the multiplier on your motherboard by jumper. What's the highest your motherboard supports? It would be really cool if you could get it to run at 7.5x133!

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Anonymous   09-26-2001 at 11:57:14 PM
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i have a intel 440bx-3 mobo, i've been looking for the tech. specs for a while can't seem to find any of the jumper settings. i put the process in with a slocket so i don't know if the board will support the higher bus, the slocket allows me to run at 133 with jumpers hmmm.....

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Crashman   09-27-2001 at 12:20:17 AM
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I've actually SEEN on some Intel motherboards where you could actually set the multiplier in BIOS, using a CONFIG jumper to enable settup. On the SE440BX-2 the jumper J8A1 would need to be changed from 1-2 to 2-3 for Configuration mode, then back to 1-2 for Operation mode. I really think this is your answer. Of course the system must be powered down to do it!

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Matisaro   09-27-2001 at 04:09:49 AM
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My wifes cousin works for intel at thir northwest campus, and he gave my wifes grandparents a p3 for free.(hand me down) son of a bitch was unlocked! It wont run stably at 933 thought(it is 833 stock I think). He also gave my wifes uncle an unlocked 550.

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Crashman   09-27-2001 at 05:15:22 AM
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Probably would be stable at 933 if the voltage were to be increased.

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Matisaro   09-27-2001 at 10:31:05 AM
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It is my wifes grandfathers computer, I did not want to screw with anything expecially since my first try with it(@1ghz) caused it to die and I had to clear the cmos....trust me having a 78 yearold (who plays diablo 2 7 hours a day which I find weird but this is off topic) who just got a new computer sees you apparently kill it(he didnt know about the cmos and the cpu going too high etc etc) is not a good way to inspire trust enough to let you screw with settings etc. I asked him if he wanted to trade me for my 900mhz tbird at the time, mobo and all.(I would have loved to fool with that thing) but he said no. The funny thing is I am called over there to fix those computers all the time( he has 2 and a lan for the sole purpose of trading items from one diablo2 character to his mules etc. sad I know.) and the athlon 1.2ghz never gives me any trouble, its allways that damned 833 p3 which always needs reinstalls and repair. I think his sisters son gave him on of the "bad" engineering chips or something.

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