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Matisaro · Sep 27, 2001

Got suckered into buying this.

http://www.theinquirer.net/26090108.htm

One gig of ram with a gf2 mx on a p4 2ghz, and dual 80 gig drives which probably are 5200 rpm lol.

I can think of 100 ways to redistribute that 2grand(how much is 1700 pounds in us dollars) to have a waay better system, ditch the dual 80 gigs and get triple 40 gigs for starters, and with the saved cash get a gf3 or radeon 8500.(not even going into the wasted cash in the cpu). I think the ram is sdram too....shame.

~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
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somerandomguy · Sep 27, 2001

LOL, at least it didn't have a TNT2.
I guess the person selling it will be happy because he ripped someone off, and the person buying it will be happy because they’ll think they have the best machine ever.

"Ignorance is bliss, but I tend to get screwed over."

lhgpoobaa · Sep 27, 2001

ouch.

like having a ferrari.... mated to a volkswagen gearbox and training wheels.

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zengeos · Sep 27, 2001

1700 pounds is roughly 2500US$

Computers are, however, more expensive in Europe by about 20% I believe..

Mark-

When all else fails, throw your computer out the window!!!

Matisaro · Sep 27, 2001

2500!!!!! what a shafting, anyone who buys that pc is officially a MORON, not even the power of the mighty xp can save that POS.

~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
~Tbird1.3@1.5~

MeTaLrOcKeR · Sep 27, 2001

LoL

besides....
Personally I only respect all power users who build there own PC's, not get the ready made solutionw hich u pay in excess of $600+ for a POS Integrated bottom line part everything POC.....

=)

-MeTaL RoCkEr
My Z28 can take your P4 off the line!

Matisaro · Sep 27, 2001

Sad to see intel is facilitating the RAPING of innocent non techie consumers with their empty megahertz.

Damn shame, ALMOST AS BAD, as people pricing similarly cripled athlon systems only 100 bucks less than their [-peep-] p4 systems in hopes of conning people who heard amd is a good value, I have seen p4 1.8ghz systems with 32 MEG TNTE AGP 4X GRAPHICS, selling for 1500 only to see a 1.2ghz tbird selling with the same crippled graphics for 1400, when the cpu/ram price difference is more than 200 bucks!

~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
~Tbird1.3@1.5~

MeTaLrOcKeR · Sep 27, 2001

Very sad indeed......thats how they make money, to rip off the un-informed...... =*(
bastards can GO TO HELL.....lol j/k I was never ripepd off, i never baught a PC in my life.......I always baught the PARTS and assembled it myself....from 286 - now.... =)

if only those graphics cards were better....damn shame....

-MeTaL RoCkEr
My Z28 can take your P4 off the line!

Matisaro · Sep 27, 2001

At least they dont overclock their systems shadily like some stores used to do in the old days.

~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
~Tbird1.3@1.5~

MeTaLrOcKeR · Sep 27, 2001

Horrid days.......
Pentium MMX chips....
buy a 166MMX Intel and set Multiplier to 3.5 i believe and it hits 233MHz and is exactly the same as a 233 and no one knows.....

-MeTaL RoCkEr
My Z28 can take your P4 off the line!

Guest · Sep 27, 2001

A trend I have seen by computer makers is to put a fast(2Ghz) CPU in computer with an ultra cheap graphics card.

Dell is even worse I think I saw a dell with P4 2Ghz CPU, and Geforce 2 MX graphics and only 128MB of ram...
People must just see 2Ghz, and want to buy it.

-MIke

Edited by 1200mike on 09/27/01 08:21 AM.

flamethrower205 · Sep 27, 2001

Hey, despite my every effort to stop my friend from doing so, he got a similar system! Thought itwas top of the line, would kick my system (his- P4 1.3GHz, 128SDRAM, GF2 MX), vs mine (Athlon 1.2 GHz, Quadro DCC, 512 DDR). Heh, the benchmark score differences were rather....very far apart.

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You brain on drugs: Mac

OzzieBloke · Sep 27, 2001

You think that is bad?

Here in Oz, there is one place selling P4 1.8 at $3,200 ($1,600 US) with a *TNT2M64* graphics card. I derived great pleasure from letting a salesman declare the wonders of this system for a full half hour before I very calmly told him the reason I was interested in it was because it was such a hilarious joke, told him exactly what I could do with the same amount of money, and left that store whistling

And, if you are interested, the store shut down 4 months later... coincidence? Hmm...

FatBurger · Sep 27, 2001

Dell is even worse I think I saw a dell with P4 2Ghz CPU, and Geforce 2 MX graphics and only 128MB of ram...

Back page of this week's US News & World Reports. Saw it last night. Nice case, though.
Besides, since when does the i845 support SDRAM running at "133MHz", as the ad so proudly states? I'm almost tempted to buy it and then sue for false advertising when I prove that the SDRAM is running at 100MHz.

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jlbigguy · Sep 27, 2001

"ALMOST AS BAD, as people pricing similarly cripled athlon systems"

How true. Neighbors of mine just bought a "state of the art" Athlon 1ghz machine, a Sony VAIO. What a piece of crap. Sure, it has a good looking tower case. But that's about it. I believe it uses the SIS 730 chipset, uses the SIS integrated video and sound, 128k ram (16k dedicated to integrated video) and has a 40gb drive. Takes about 2 minutes to boot, much of that waiting for the video to display the desktop. They need the machine for video editing. Good luck!

All this for only $1,000 (monitor not included). What could have been custom built for that much money? A 1.4ghz, 512k DDR ram, GForce3, 40gb RAID, and still have a hundred bucks left over.

This 1ghz Athlon performs like a 400mhz Celeron. Amazing how well you can cripple a computer if you really try.

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AmdMELTDOWN · Sep 27, 2001

I live in the U.S.A. everything in the UK has crazy prices +VAT.

3 drives = 33.3% more heat.

"AMD/VIA!...you are still the weakest link, good bye!"

FatBurger · Sep 27, 2001

128k ram (16k dedicated to integrated video)

Please tell me you mean megabytes, not kilobytes

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AmdMELTDOWN · Sep 27, 2001

>This 1ghz Athlon perform like a 400mhz Celeron.

LOL!, LOL! you buy a Athlon sys and get a Celeron sys, LOL! the question is which would fry the best?

"AMD/VIA!...you are still the weakest link, good bye!"

Tom_Smart · Sep 27, 2001

Here in the U.K I am that salesman. Only I would have sold it to you, sold you an expensive warranty and let you have any thing in the store costing £20.00 for free, because you’re special!!!

Although it has a lot of good ideas, beer doesn't know anything about computers!!!

zengeos · Sep 27, 2001

"since when does the i845 support SDRAM running at "133MHz", as the ad so proudly states? I'm almost tempted to buy it and then sue for false advertising when I prove that the SDRAM is running at 100MHz."

Perhaps the system has 133mhz SDRAM dimms in it. So, by saying it contains 133mhz DIMMS it doesn't necessarily mean the system has to run it at that speed...

Mark-

When all else fails, throw your computer out the window!!!

FatBurger · Sep 28, 2001

No, it explicitly says (and I quote)

128meg of SDRAM running at 133MHz

I can scan in the ad and post it for you, if you want?

It has a pretty nice looking case, I'll give them that

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FatBurger · Sep 28, 2001

So does the memory run asynchronously on an i845? Where's Raystonn?

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Raystonn · Sep 28, 2001

I do not really like the i845, and so have not looked much into it. However, I believe the FSB runs at 400MHz while the memory itself is used at 1/3 that clockspeed. Thus, the memory actually makes use of only 1 out of every 3 FSB clocks. The FSB is called quad-pumped because it gets 4 clocks per external clock (the external clock runs at 100MHz.) I would call the i845's memory interface tri-unpumped, as it runs at 1/3 the speed of the FSB.

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jlbigguy · Sep 28, 2001

Here I go showing my age again!

My first PC was a TRS-80 with 4k of RAM, 1k of video ram. Sometimes I am stuck in the K's.

I did mean Meg. Thanks!

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jlbigguy · Sep 28, 2001

The point was that you can take any system and make it crawl, yet have the consumer pay a premium.

How about a 1.5mhz P4 with an 845 and SDRAM, with an ATI 16M Rage? Or a 1 ghz PIII with an SIS integrated video and sound chipset. They would crawl as well.

Crippling systems is not limited to any chip manufacturer.

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