CPU Fan for Dimension 8200

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I have a Dimension 8200 with a Pentium 4 2.8 Gig processor. Need a
replacement for the fan that cools the processor -- any suggestions?

Thanks!
Jim

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Call Dell and ask for spare parts. If you use other than an OEM fan, you'll
have to live with a "fan failure" bootup error each time you start the
system.



"Jim Fell" <jameshfell@removecharter.net> wrote in message
news:10km318246pg56d@corp.supernews.com...
>I have a Dimension 8200 with a Pentium 4 2.8 Gig processor. Need a
> replacement for the fan that cools the processor -- any suggestions?
>
> Thanks!
> Jim
>
>
>

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

The typical Dell cooling fan attached to the back of a Dell chassis has a
Dell-proprietary 3-pin connector to the motherboard. The "fan failure" bootup
error is displayed by the Dell BIOS if it does not sense enough current flowing
from the motherboard connector. If you don't want to deal with the error
message and still use a Zalman fan, be prepared to graft the Dell connector onto
the Zalman fan, do a little bit of soldering and use some electrical tape.
Also, be extra careful removing the Dell fan from the four rubber grommets which
hold the fan onto its plastic adapter and dampen the vibration caused by the
fan.

Or maybe Zalman or some other aftermarket fan manufacturer has a fan with a
connector compatible with Dell? ... Ben Myers


On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:13:15 GMT, Charliec <charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote:

>"Edward J. Neth" <ejn63@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>>Call Dell and ask for spare parts. If you use other than an OEM fan, you'll
>>have to live with a "fan failure" bootup error each time you start the
>>system.
>
>Edward,
>Does that happen with all replacement fans for Dell Computers. I'm looking
>into replacing my noisy Dell 8300 CPU fan with one from Zalman which is
>supposed to be much quieter. Would not want to have that "fan failure"
>message on each bootup.
>Charlie
>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Jim Fell" <jameshfell@removecharter.net> wrote in message
>>news:10km318246pg56d@corp.supernews.com...
>>>I have a Dimension 8200 with a Pentium 4 2.8 Gig processor. Need a
>>> replacement for the fan that cools the processor -- any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>******************************************************
>Charliec

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Your explanation is technically more accurate than mine... Ben

On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 16:30:50 -0400, "Ted" <nothanks@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>
><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message news:414c7aef.15852598@news.charter.net...
>> The typical Dell cooling fan attached to the back of a Dell chassis has a
>> Dell-proprietary 3-pin connector to the motherboard. The "fan failure" bootup
>> error is displayed by the Dell BIOS if it does not sense enough current flowing
>> from the motherboard connector.
>
>Are you sure that is how the sensing works? I ask because I have read
>discussions about fan RPM monitoring, and these lead me to believe that
>many fans drive the third, RPM sense wire with digital pulses, with one or
>more pulses per fan revolution. The period of those pulses is measured
>via an LM79 or whatever, and if it is too long (indicating low or no RPM),
>appropriate action is taken.

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Yep, Dell managed to frag the aftermarket fan folks. The older Dell
units had the standard 3 pin connector and sensing logic. Aftermarket
"quiet-fans" would work just fine. Some of the newer Dell motherboards
have a proprietary connector (also 3 pin - different plug shape) and
different sensing logic. If you trade connectors (needle nose pliers
and a pin to release each wire) the fan will work but the BIOS will
burp at you. The aftermarket vendors have not yet caught on... I just
had a conversation with a sales person from a company that sells ultra
quiet fans and he had no clue to what I was asking. In time...

AK


"Steve W." <me@homer.org> wrote in message news:<41519a64_7@corp.newsgroups.com>...
> Yep.
> --
> Steve
>
> "Charliec" <charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote in message
> news:e1rok05bs6kmei6rb4dmgve5o7mhm1jeok@4ax.com...
> > "Edward J. Neth" <ejn63@netscape.net> wrote:
> >
> > >Call Dell and ask for spare parts. If you use other than an OEM fan,
> you'll
> > >have to live with a "fan failure" bootup error each time you start
> the
> > >system.
> >
> > Edward,
> > Does that happen with all replacement fans for Dell Computers. I'm
> looking
> > into replacing my noisy Dell 8300 CPU fan with one from Zalman which
> is
> > supposed to be much quieter. Would not want to have that "fan
> failure"
> > message on each bootup.
> > Charlie
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"Jim Fell" <jameshfell@removecharter.net> wrote in message
> > >news:10km318246pg56d@corp.supernews.com...
> > >>I have a Dimension 8200 with a Pentium 4 2.8 Gig processor. Need a
> > >> replacement for the fan that cools the processor -- any
> suggestions?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!
> > >> Jim
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> > ******************************************************
> > Charliec
>
>
>
>
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Thanks Gajejean!

I'm ordering today. I will post back with results for the fan selected
and a new Dell 4600 p4/2.8ghz/800mhz fsb/HT.

AK.


"Gajejean" <garbauc@nospamxearthlink.net> wrote in message news:<8Z%8d.6685$Vm1.3434@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
> FYI,
> I have a SilenX fan (the quietest I've ever (not) heard) connected to the
> motherboard on my 8300 (switched out the connector as described below), and
> I get no bootup error message. Also have added two more (one Silenx and on
> Papst) fans to assist with cooling, both connected to the power supply.
> Ultra quiet now, even when gaming, and cooler than before when it had the
> single loud Datech fan.
> GB
>
> "Adam K." <abigkahuna@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:ee1248e9.0410051651.55bfd129@posting.google.com...
> > Yep, Dell managed to frag the aftermarket fan folks. The older Dell
> > units had the standard 3 pin connector and sensing logic. Aftermarket
> > "quiet-fans" would work just fine. Some of the newer Dell motherboards
> > have a proprietary connector (also 3 pin - different plug shape) and
> > different sensing logic. If you trade connectors (needle nose pliers
> > and a pin to release each wire) the fan will work but the BIOS will
> > burp at you. The aftermarket vendors have not yet caught on... I just
> > had a conversation with a sales person from a company that sells ultra
> > quiet fans and he had no clue to what I was asking. In time...
> >
> > AK
> >
> >
> > "Steve W." <me@homer.org> wrote in message
> news:<41519a64_7@corp.newsgroups.com>...
> > > Yep.
> > > --
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > "Charliec" <charliec@invalid.address.com> wrote in message
> > > news:e1rok05bs6kmei6rb4dmgve5o7mhm1jeok@4ax.com...
> > > > "Edward J. Neth" <ejn63@netscape.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Call Dell and ask for spare parts. If you use other than an OEM fan,
> you'll
> > > > >have to live with a "fan failure" bootup error each time you start
> the
> > > > >system.
> > > >
> > > > Edward,
> > > > Does that happen with all replacement fans for Dell Computers. I'm
> looking
> > > > into replacing my noisy Dell 8300 CPU fan with one from Zalman which
> is
> > > > supposed to be much quieter. Would not want to have that "fan
> failure"
> > > > message on each bootup.
> > > > Charlie
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >"Jim Fell" <jameshfell@removecharter.net> wrote in message
> > > > >news:10km318246pg56d@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > >>I have a Dimension 8200 with a Pentium 4 2.8 Gig processor. Need a
> > > > >> replacement for the fan that cools the processor -- any
> suggestions?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks!
> > > > >> Jim
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > ******************************************************
> > > > Charliec
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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