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October 2, 2001 4:49:54 PM

Ok, so I've seen quite a few people debating AMD and INTEL. So lets just all state our opinion fair and simple. No Trolling. Just a simple post. AMD or Intel.
Just let us know which you are using now.
Nice <b><font color=green>Lizards</b></font color=green> <b>crunch</b> Trolls cookies....... :smile: Yummy!! :smile: <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by yahiko81 on 10/02/01 11:50 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

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October 2, 2001 4:53:27 PM

AMD

Currently using dual 1.2Ghz MP's

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October 2, 2001 4:55:01 PM

AMD

~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
~Tbird1.3@1.5~
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October 2, 2001 5:04:59 PM

Currently using an AMD Athlon 1.13GHz.
Soon to be an Athlon XP 1800 (1.53GHz) :wink:


<font color=red>"I'm not gonna launch a $2 million missile at a $10 tent and hit a camel's butt." -Bush</font color=red>
October 2, 2001 5:12:05 PM

AMD 1.2/266

Want to know what I'm planning on buying next, or should I leave that?

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October 2, 2001 5:12:52 PM

Athlon 1.33GHz. Will probably switch to 2x(fastest SMP-certified Athlon) once the 760MPX is out.

Kelledin

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October 2, 2001 5:18:27 PM

I suppose if you want you can add what you want to buy in the future.

Thanks for not Trolling.

I would like to keep this troll free.

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October 2, 2001 6:07:31 PM

This has been done before.

System 1 - AMD Tbird
System 2 - Intel Celeron 450
System 3 - Intel Pentium MMX 200
System 4 - Intel Pentium MMX laptop at 266

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October 2, 2001 6:24:37 PM

amd

if in doubt blame microsoft...
October 2, 2001 6:39:38 PM

In that case, I suppose I'll post all my other boxen as well.

Gateway/Firewall -- AMD 5x86-133 (the souped-up 486), unknown chipset. Has logged way too many Nimda victims since I got cable internet set up...
Test/DevBox -- Dual PII-450, 440BX. New, potentially unstable software gets its first test on this box.
Fileserver -- Dual PPro-200, 430FX. Just a fileserver...
Road Warrior -- PIII-750, 440BX. Just a laptop...

Hell, I figure I might as well post the problems I've had with each system.

Athlon 1.33GHz -- Had to hand-pick IRQs for some devices, otherwise the Adaptec 2940AU wouldn't post stable.
Gateway/Firewall -- Interesting, no problems whatsoever.
Test/DevBox -- Matrox G450 has a habit of locking up video when switching consoles in XFree86 4.1.0. No problems running 4.0.3 though.
Fileserver -- the 430FX chipset is slightly buggy in that it sometimes configures IDE devices to some out-of-spec transfer mode. I have to manually tune secondary master to PIO mode when I connect a CD-ROM.
RoadWarrior -- GAAAAH, Compaq sucks. Crappy Phoenix NoteBIOS has absolutely zero tweaking options. DVD drive causes boot to take forever if there's a DVD in the drive. The thing doesn't support APM properly (though it does support ACPI). Crappy PCMCIA slot sometimes causes an IRQ storm (which the kernel complains about but generally handles fine).

Kelledin

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October 2, 2001 6:46:16 PM

Yeup, agreed.

First family computer - 386, built by Intel, Win 3.1
First own computer - 386, don't remember who built it, DR DOS
Second family computer - IBM P120, Win95a
Third (current) family computer - Dell P3 866, WinME --> W2k
Second (current) own computer - Homemade 1.2 AMD, W2k
Third (backup/server) own computer - Homemade Duron 800, W2k

Future computer - Looks to be a Northwood, although that could change

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9/11 - RIP</font color=green>
October 2, 2001 9:07:01 PM

Dell P3 850
Dual boot- Mandrake 8.0, Win 2k (Pirated).

Athlon 1200@1333
Dual boot- Win 98 (Pirated), Win 2k (Pirated)

P2 Laptop - "The War Driver"
Dual boot- Win98, Linux Mandrake 8.0 (AirSnort)

Several other Linux boxes with varying CPUs, including one PowerPC (Macintosh 7200/75), running Linux PPC Q4 2000 release.

I will be constructing a Dual Athlon 1.2 GHz server running Linux (haven't decided distro), What's that I hear about MPX? When will it be out (b4 December?)



"If you teach a child to read, then he or her will be able to pass a literacy test" - George W.
October 2, 2001 9:27:21 PM

My history:

386 (bought)
P200mmx (built)
K6-2 400MHz (built)
Duron 700 (built)
TBird 1200 (just CPU upgrade)




Breaking news: Intel hit by a SledgeHammer! AMD to blame! More in just a moment...
October 2, 2001 10:43:55 PM

Hmm, first computer was a 486DX 33MHz then an Intel Pentium 133MHz then an AMD K6-2 450MHz (that's when AMD's K6-2 was considered the first respectable alternative to Intel), and a 1.2GHz Athlon (overclocked to 1.4GHz). I'd go with Intel again if they reduce prices and introduce a clockless processor to the public.

AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor
October 2, 2001 11:11:46 PM

By clockless, do you mean multiplier unlocked?

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October 2, 2001 11:48:31 PM

No, I mean a clockless CPU that works that has different parts working asyncronously. Since it isn't following a single clock speed, it would have to be measured in MIPS and MFLOPS. Also this would allow Intel or even AMD to release a CPU specifically designed to excel in certain tasks while mantaining a good overall price. Intel could, for example, have an asyncronous CPU that has a top of the line FPU with a previous generation ALU and sell it for a cheap price. What a clockless CPU is, is a processor that runs each of it's parts at different speeds. Um, I don't remember where I read about them, perhaps someone has a link? However, I don't think this will happen before, say...5 years.

AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor
Anonymous
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October 3, 2001 3:41:52 AM

AMD
1.33 GHz / 266


Down at pants n at wit Donnie Iris
October 3, 2001 4:01:43 AM

Intel of course. :) 

Current best personally owned system:

Pentium 4 Northwood 2.0GHz running at 2.66GHz using a 533MHz FSB (133MHz external clock) with Samsung PC800 memory running at PC1066 for 4.266GB/s of memory bandwidth.

-Raystonn


= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my employer. =
October 3, 2001 5:08:33 AM

Quote:
Pentium 4 Northwood 2.0GHz

Why must you mock us so?

I have a PIII 550.

Edit: If you don't mind me asking Raystonn, how stable is your Northwood using a 533MHz FSB?

"Ignorance is bliss, but I tend to get screwed over."<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by somerandomguy on 10/03/01 01:13 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
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October 3, 2001 5:38:37 AM

What do you think the chances are of someone running an ABIT TH7-II with a 1.5GHz at 2.0GHz/533(133), 1066 using the same ram are?

Back to you Tom...
October 3, 2001 5:47:37 AM

"how stable is your Northwood using a 533MHz FSB?"

Perfectly stable. The PCI bus and AGP port are running within specifications; not overclocked. I could attempt to overclock those as well, but I'd rather not risk data corruption on my hard drive.

-Raystonn


= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my employer. =
October 3, 2001 5:53:53 AM

Quote:
Perfectly stable.


Well I'm impressed....I don't suppose you'd like to benchmark it for us? :D 

"Ignorance is bliss, but I tend to get screwed over."
October 3, 2001 5:54:42 AM

That depends on how well your motherboard supports a 533MHz memory bus, if you can set your PCI/AGP to run within specifications, and how good your processor really is. I have not looked very closely at the yields on most of the Willamettes, but you would want to make sure you had the latest stepping. I would have to say give it a try. It would certainly make a good story/review, no matter the outcome. I am surprised no reviewers have attempted this, or at least reported a failed attempt. Many current motherboards claim to be able to go up to 2.2GHz, so a Pentium 4 1.6GHz might even work. In fact, that might be a newer part...

-Raystonn


= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my employer. =
October 3, 2001 5:57:20 AM

Due to my own curiosity I have already run all the standard benchmarks on this system. However, due to legal (and competitive) issues, I cannot release the results. :( 

-Raystonn


= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my employer. =
October 3, 2001 6:03:00 AM

Quote:
However, due to legal (and competitive) issues, I cannot release the results.


Oh well, never mind.

You know, there actually was a review in which they put a different clock generator on a P4 motherboard (something like that anyway) and ran it with a 533Mhz FSB. I'll see if I can find it for you.

"Ignorance is bliss, but I tend to get screwed over."
October 3, 2001 6:07:27 AM

That would be <A HREF="http://www.aceshardware.com/Spades/read.php?article_id=..." target="_new">'The DRDRAM Evolution: PC1066' article on Ace's Hardware</A>. I read it when it was first written. It was very interesting.

-Raystonn


= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my employer. =
October 3, 2001 7:58:15 AM

in the middle of building:
ecs k7s5a
1800XP w/(probably globalwin fop32-1)
2x 512mb infineon ddr cas2@266
40gb ibm 60gxp (system)
3x60gb ibm 60gxp (raid 0 on fasttrak100tx2 controller)
dvRaptorRT
56x afreey cdrom
in-win Q500N full tower w/400w sparkle + 2 case fans
and i have a floppy drive too!!


ewww, put that thing away, you're in public!
October 3, 2001 8:14:02 AM

i say AMD,
but i have to admit i love your overclock Raystonn... any special cooling?

Religious wars are 2 groups of people fighting over who has the best imaginary friend.
Anonymous
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October 3, 2001 10:04:30 AM

AMD Athlon 600 classic (Linux & Win2k)
AMD Duron 700 @ 900 Win98SE (games machine)
Intel PIII 650 laptop
Anonymous
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October 3, 2001 10:47:36 AM

First PC: 486 DX2 66 (1994) (Neither heatsink, nor fan. LOL)
Later:
1) P133 (Bought as Complete)
2) AMD K5 200 (Built)
3) Celeron 333@400 (Built)
4) PIII 450@600 (Built)
5) Duron 600@800 (Built)

Currently, I use two systems.

Duron 800@1000 and AXIA T-Bird 1000@1000.


<font color=red>Apple</font color=red> <font color=blue>inside</font color=blue>, <font color=green>idiot</font color=green> <font color=purple>outside</font color=purple>...
Anonymous
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October 3, 2001 11:06:50 AM

intel p75mhz - changing to AMD athlon 800

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October 3, 2001 11:30:46 AM

Why not get a athlon 1ghz it is only 10 bucks or so more.(last I checked)

www.pricewatch.com

~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
~Tbird1.3@1.5~
Anonymous
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October 3, 2001 11:38:08 AM

I'm after getting the asus A7V so what AMD chips go with this board?

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October 3, 2001 12:09:18 PM

sys 1
P60 48meg edo, running redhat as firewall/router

sys 2
k6-3 450 320meg 4 meg vid card, no sound or cd. win2k as file/print server

sys 3
main pc athlon 1000 @1400 watercooled, rest of spec not important in this topic

sys4- kids
k6-2 450 @ 500, 256meg, voodoo 3 3500


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Anonymous
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October 3, 2001 12:17:41 PM

1st computer (family-bought) 4Mhz 8086 <- actually think it was 8Mhz as it was an Amstrad 1512
2nd computer (family-bought) 486 DX2 66Mhz
3rd Computer (family-bought) PIII 500
4th Computer (mine-built) Celeron 466Mhz
5th Computer (mine-upgrade) Athlon 700Mhz
6th Computer (family-built) Duron 700Mhz
7th Computer (family-bought) PIII 700 Laptop

ooh never actually looked at it like that. i've had a fair few computers!!


<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Mrs_Kensington on 10/03/01 01:20 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
October 3, 2001 12:43:54 PM

Things from the past:
Vic-20
C-64
80286-8Mhz,20Mb Hd
80486-25SX,8 Mb RAM, 120Mb Hd
Pentium 133Mhz, 32 Mb RAM, 1.2Gb Hd

Current:
Pentium II 300Mhz 100FSB, 256Mb RAM, 40Gb Hd

Soon:
P4-1.6Ghz, 512 Mb RDRAM Etc (I dumped AMD)



I am the law!
October 3, 2001 1:18:23 PM

Current:
AMD Tbird 1.0 @ 1.38 (138Mhz x 10)
(Had 1.42 but changed the NIC and it's not stable
at that speed anymore)
512MB PC133 Infineon 2-2-2
Hercules GF2 MX (classic) 32MB

Current Router:
P120 w/ 128MB EDO running RH6.2

Future Router (just needs to be switched over):
Dual P166MMX w/ 128Mb EDO running RH6.2
(Also being used for Oracle serving and
personal Web hosting)

Old/Obselete/Unused Machines:
P2-266
P133
P120
have parts from my old 486 and 286..



Intel Components, AMD Components... all made in Taiwan!
Anonymous
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October 3, 2001 2:00:03 PM

Laptop 600Mhz Celeron
Desktop 1.2 AMD
October 3, 2001 8:53:11 PM

No special cooling was used. I classify special cooling as anything beyond air cooling. I just use an HSF and case fans. With special cooling and tweaks I could probably get it up to 3GHz, but that would require it to be unlocked. There are no settings to run the PCI/AGP within specifications with the processor at 3GHz when overclocking purely via the external clock and FSB. I could use unlocked settings, but I find it more interesting to overclock in a fashion that can be duplicated by the general public.

-Raystonn


= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my employer. =
October 3, 2001 9:44:33 PM

Quote:
I could use unlocked settings, but I find it more interesting to overclock in a fashion that can be duplicated by the general public.

If you use unlocked setting and post the way you do it,
than it can be duplicated by general public. :wink:





Breaking news: Intel hit by a SledgeHammer! AMD to blame! More in just a moment...
October 3, 2001 9:54:23 PM

Since unlocked processors are not generally available to the public, I do not see how...

-Raystonn


= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my employer. =
October 3, 2001 10:39:16 PM

My Rigs:

AMD 1.4GHz Athlon
AMD 700MHz Duron
AMD K6-2 333
AMD K6-2 400
PIII 500

Suggestions on upgrading the Duron? Freebie system, straight from Compaq.

:) 

And new system, soon to be (probably) 2.2GHz Northwood PIV.
October 3, 2001 10:40:51 PM

He's using an Intel tech sample, which is unlocked. Retail (or OEM) Intel processors are not unlocked.

But please Ray, let us know what kind of 3DMark score you can get with a 3GHz P4 :) 
When you can, of course.

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October 4, 2001 1:05:29 AM

uh....
oooooh
"northwood" that explains it.

i had the destinct impression that the current p4's could only overclock to about 2.2Ghz.
now i understand...

i suspect you, raystonn, are in a very small enviable minority with your CPU chip :) 


Religious wars are 2 groups of people fighting over who has the best imaginary friend.
October 4, 2001 8:00:55 AM

Of course I work for Intel. Click on my name. Then again perhaps you already have and just had not believed me?

-Raystonn


= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my employer. =
October 4, 2001 4:25:29 PM

Ahh, Ray you were the first person to mess up this thread.

Nice <b><font color=green>Lizards</b></font color=green> <b>crunch</b> Trolls cookies....... :smile: Yummy!! :smile:
October 4, 2001 8:16:00 PM

How is that? I posted my preference and best current hardware as did everyone else. You seem to have a fixation on attempting to label me as a troll lately. Care to discuss it?

-Raystonn


= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my employer. =
October 4, 2001 8:19:10 PM

Nah, just giving you a hard time. I like it when you post. It keeps a conversation interesting. Not to mention intelligent.

Nice <b><font color=green>Lizards</b></font color=green> <b>crunch</b> Trolls cookies....... :smile: Yummy!! :smile:
October 4, 2001 10:34:11 PM

Good, cos that last bit was throwing a big "WTF!?" in my thought processes too...

Kelledin

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