I´m by no means an intel or AMD fan.
The problem with the new xp processors is AMD´s way marketing it. It´s a well known fact that the common consumer ( 1st time buyers ) recognizes the speed as Mhz/Ghz.
The Pr rating ( eventhough it is relevant because mhz=speed is wrong ) is confusing the common public.
If they want to sell even more processors throw away the Pr system introduce a 50 stage pipeline and a speed of 3ghz.(cooling might be a problem lol)
People want mhz not PR.So what, if they don´t perform as well give the public what they want.
system.1
1.6ghz P4
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Athlon 700mhz
Aopen ak72
256MB pc133 cas 2
first of all we had a thread talking about just that, look it up.
second whats up with those rigs?i dont get the question concerning them.
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I think that's his sig.
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it would help also if amd zealots were able to control themselves, I recieved spam email from someone on this board and I do not appreciate it. I believe the people here need to grow up.
intel_inside your starting to piss me off, althogh i didnt send that mail you will be getting allot more then that soon if you dont stop spamming threads with bullshit, now please you grow up!
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sending spam is illegal
Ummm...no it isn't.
Anyways, why the hell do these people have to start threads like this? It just invites a flame war to happen.
Secondly, AMD most likely does not want to use a huge pipeline currently as there is no preformance to be gained by it, even some apps are slowed by a long pipeline. Notice as to why a 1.9GHz PIV preforms about the same as a 1.4GHz TBird. Case closed.
Have you ever tried cooking an egg on your HSF? Tasty.
yes it is, and it would look really bad if tomshardware was pegged as a 'spam site' but that is what would happen if people on the boards began doing that, I personally hope the moderator(s) will ban the people who threaten other users by illegal means.
lol, you made me lough again.
you dont really understand the problam with internet.
i wasnt talking about spam, if i were to threat some one of spaming him he would lough his ass off, the internet provides me with tools much more disastarous then "spaming" try not to make ppl you dont know mad at you over the net.
this was not to threat you at any way just for common knolage.
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If my opinions make people mad then they should try and debunk them by respectable means, spamming people with email is a sign of extreme immaturity and it also shows the person is unable to counter my opinions so they have to resort to harassing me. Anyway, enough of this, I'm sure some of my recent posts prove to people that I am only a partial crackpot.
i never said you were, but posting some stupid post as "amd is sh%t" and such is really annoying.
i say again i wasnt the one to spam you, then again i wouldt spam you anyway.
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| Quote : Anyway, enough of this, I'm sure some of my recent posts prove to people that I am only a partial crackpot. |
Try a total crackpot.
Have you ever tried cooking an egg on your HSF? Tasty.
I also did not and would not spam you but have observed some of your threads and responses in this forum. I hope you have sense enough to see the hypocrisy of your remarks. Extreme immaturity? Come on.
its could be Amdmeltdown.
intel_inside=bowser
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"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
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Hmmm yes, I was wondering when I first saw him....same dipshit writing style, same whining, same ridiculous, unbacked claims.
I think it's time to break out the Mighty Cane again...
Kelledin
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Deffinatly bowser, and the guy smilin or whatever in the graphics forum, I think he is the new sn of that guy who claimed having more fps in a game made the character run faster jump higher, and that if he was playing anyone when he was at 80fps and they were at 40 he would win everytime. I forgot his nickname however, what was it.
::thinks::
Regardless, I am pretty sure intel inside is bowser, they seem so alike.
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"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
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That was my point.....
The pipeline doesn´t increase the efficiency it just makes higher clock speeds easier to reach.
The point of my letter was people want MHZ not Performance....Thats the the argument for AMD to create a processor with a longer pipeline...
People are stupid, No company should release a crippled product because people THINK its better, what happens when people finally realize that 3ghz athlon 4 with netburst archetecture is beaten soundly by a 1.7ghz athlon xp, people can only be stupid for so long you know.
~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
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actually people can be much longer stupid..
but then i dont know even if they knew AMD was faster, they would buy AMD, they kinda stick to one brand to scared to move.
same with Linux and Windows.
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>lough
>problam
>disastarous
>knolage
I am sorried, I had to ask: you are doing this on purpose, aren't you ? Your posts always make me thing of that French postman in 'Allo allo (=English tv comedy on the resistance in WWII)
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heh?
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OKay, assuming you are not joking, here goes:
>lough should be Laugh
>problam should be Problem
>disastarous should be disasterous
>knolage should be knowledge
english is not my native language either (so anyone correct me if I'm wrong) but you always type an "a" instead of an "e". Which reminds me of a tv comedy which you probably do not know where there is a French postman or something that speaks english in an incomprehensible way by mixing vowels. It goes something like:
"Gadmeurning laidees end gantlemin. WHo do you daw ?"..
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If you don't want to be spammed, then don't put personal data on the net in public places Intel. It's not that hard to avoid.
60 FPS, 70 FPS, 80 FPS Crash!
Daylight comes and I have to go to work
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I doubt it. I remember who you're talking abotu (but not his name), and he was a nice guy. Just delusioned
Course, there is a noticeable difference between 1 FPS and 60 FPS...
Anyhow, in the old days speed was determined by the processor. So the people with the slowest processor won (the games would go slower, but since there was no multiplayer back then, the slower people got the highest scores). Try playing a very early arcade game on your current machine, and it'll fly.
BTW, Kelledin, what is the 'Mighty Crane'?
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*ahem* that's "Mighty Cane." If you've forgotten, you can find out about it all over again <A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=9642#9642" target="_new">here</A>.
Although the full name is "Mighty Pimp-Stick of Justice," I think you can understand how "Mighty Cane" would be less offensive to read and easier to say.
Kelledin
"/join #hackerz. See the Web. DoS interesting people."
Oh, that's right. For some reason I couldn't remember the 'Mighty Crane'. Now I know why
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dude, most AMD zealots suffer from mental problems, just look at Van Smith for ex.
"<b>AMD/VIA!</b>...you are <i>still</i> the weakest link, good bye!"
meltdown stop snifing white powders..
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Meltdown, if you're going to start censoring names, start with his.
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LOl, yet its the intel zealots who get the most attacks and board time, there are few who are liked less on this board than the likes of amdmeltdown, FUGGER, intel_inside, and bowser.
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Obviously the intel zealots get the most flames on this board seeing as there is an OVERWHELMING majority of amd-worshiping population who in their 'amd-group-think' will attack any comment that is not pro-amd. And I am not bowser! (whoever that is)
No, when you list the trolls on this forum, the really nasty ones are generally pro intel. Like you. There are of course pro amd trolls, but they are eclipsed in their glory by ignorant meltdowns and fuggers and bowsers, and you.
Go away Troll, you and your "troll project" are not welcome on this forum.
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I have never once seen Raystonn attacked for something he said. Except for the trolls, who attack anybody who doesn't agree with him.
I certainly wouldn't call Raystonn pro-AMD.
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I don't think most of these people will attack comments that aren't pro-AMD as long as they are truthful. The stuff you have been spewing on the boards has been complete BS and completely biased towards Intel. Right now in the processor game, AMD has the upper had. That may change but right now AMD makes the best processor for the price/performance ratio. You are the one that brings on the spam by making these radical remarks and allowing yourself to be e-mailed. I'm not saying it's right of those who are spamming you to spam and that they might be immature, but it's kind of ironic you calling them immature.
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Well said!
Good or Bad have no meaning at all, depends on what your point of view is.
Well my post on windowsXP was legit, I was curious if people did any tests that really proved it was optimized for pentium4 (I saw this advertised everywhere) and people just blew up and started insulting me. Sad, sad.
Thanks for the complement. They need someone on these message boards called "Troll-Eradicator". And guess what his purpose would be? To eradicate all trolls! Genius idea.Don't ask me how it would be accomplished though...
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One man's troll is another man's treasure!
“One man's troll is another man's treasure!”
Does that mean you married a troll? Are you and FUGGER an item?
No, him and bowser. That's why bowser disappeard. He was assimilated on the honeymoon
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This post wasn´t meant to start a discussion about spamming.There is no doubt that amd is in the lead in the Prise/performance game, but that isn´t the issue.(GET IT)
First time users are buying MHZ not PR.
I´m not an intel or AMD fan I like em both. I just see aproblem for amd when they choose to break away from the MHZ rating thats all.
Please don´t start a riot.(GET IT)
Actually Bent, The issue wasn't AMD breaking away from the Mhz rating system, it was Intel's decision to lessen the performance per mhz in order to drastically increase mhz on Intel's part.
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When all else fails, throw your computer out the window!!!
MHZ is not a unified rating system, while intel is playing the Mhz game amd cant make the buyers smarter and otify them not to really look at the Mhz rather then actuall performance.
they cant run benchmarks on the fly so AMD needed some system to make it more easy for the simple joe understand the prformance and Mhz comparison.
just by posting that i can see you dont mind people buying intel just coz its higher Mhz, infact your pissed at AMD and althogh you say you are not biased towards intel you are.
that is just sad.
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FB, are you feeling okay ? You look kinda weird.. greenish ;-).. bandwith hog hu ?.. how many posts did that take ?
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Intel_inside, I'll be frank with you. You know why most people in these forums love AMD? Not because it's better! It's easier to overclock and requires a lot of research to get it working the first time, that's why! To 99.9% of the enthusiasts, that's fun!!!!! Comparing the Athlon to a Pentium 4 is like comparing a hotrod (Athlon) to a luxury car (Pentium 4). The luxury car will be up and running faster and give you less problems, but the hotrod is faster, more tweakable and customizable and it's more fun to mess with and makes a big impression on the road.
AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor
Zengeos: Good point!
love_guru: let me guess ,your just a guy with a small penis and a pathetic computer rig......
To everyone else: thanks for trying to put perspective on the mhz/pr discussion.
Whether that was intentional or not doesn't really matter to me. That's what effectively happened.
ahh well.
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was that a pathetic try to be funny?
thats just makes me a sad panda..
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nope....
I said i wasn´t an intel fan and you still accuse me of being one.
That makes you a sad old fart..
Think about it. I don´t work for intel, what would i gain from being an intel fan?????
Even the word fan is quite funny when you think about it. I´m a fan of a tiny hardware thingy.....sad sad sad....
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