Its not true, its what lemmings want you to belive.
P4 dominates in performance, compatability, and reliability.
If you need a problematic space heater with involuntary self combustion. buy the AMD product. BTW the price difference is nill. Enjoy your P4
Go with the Asus P4T-E or Abit TH7II-RAID, both are highly recomended boards.
AMD owners have some bug up their ass in thinking they are superior when they are not. ALL AMD based systems are in harms way when it comes to thermal death. AMD claimed some thermal protection but as tom proved it doesnt work, and its never worked.
Visit the motherboard section and parooze the thousands of posts from AMD owners whining about why their rig sucks ass. I couldnt believe the amount of bad AMD motherboard posts. A few minutes reading in the motherboard forum should be warning enough not to buy AMD, GL finding a good one =)
So now with the PR rating, your paying more for slower processor.
Now its time for Keliden to chime in with "what incompatabilites" as if there was none =)
Ok, Fugger. Been running my "heat bomb" as you call it for a week non stop, and current temp is 46 degrees C. Seems pretty cool to me. Will any P4 user out there please take the 1 benchmarking scene in max, and tell me how fast they render it? I need a good laugh. There, fast as hell, no reliability issues, and cheap as hell too. I wonder, what will your P4 do when I OC my 1.2 GHz to 1.8? Hehe.
Even the most die-hard Intel supporter knows thats just a bare-faced lie.
"If you need a problematic space heater with involuntary self combustion"
Very true...if you happen to be stupid enough to pull the HSF off during a game of Quake3, are inept at fitting the HSF or just plain cheap.
"Enjoy your P4"
You`d better, you`re sure gonna part with enough cash for it.
"So now with the PR rating, your paying more for slower processor."
Slower clock speed sure, but anyone with just a little knowledge of CPU`s knows that raw Mhz does not equal performance, there`s the little matter of instructions per clock cycle (IPC) to take into account. Which is something that the average store-buying consumer doesn`t know, which in turn is the reason they get excited when they see an Intel box with a big number on it.
The one point I will concede is, that as a general rule, Intel motherboards do tend to be more stable than their AMD counterparts, but there are exceptions. The thing is not everyone is happy pottering along on an expensive, silicon zimmer-frame, no matter how sturdy it is.
Hey troll guess you've not seen the recent article by tom.
The Motherboard in his HSF video, wasn't able to use the Thermal diode correctly. Read the article Flamer!
Don't listen to this fool, if your gonna by a P4 wait till northwood. Or else you'll be buying a dead horse!(423)
If anythign, the P4 and the XP are equal in apps that are SSE2 enables, some that are SSE2 enables STILL are faster on Athlon Platforms even though there si no SSE2 support on any CURRENT AMD CPU...And again, Soem apps edges to the P4 over the Athlon when SSE2 is enabled, but never will it ever SMASH the Athlon into the ground, SSE2 or no SSE2...
Read up.....on ALL Benchamrks, Overall, AMD Athlons are MUCH quicker processors, Office Productivity, nothign can touch the Athlon, 3D Rendering ? Good luck on your P4..HAH HAH even WITH SSE2...
Video editing, well, now with the XP, AMD Athlon XP Processors are equal to P4's if nto betetr in soem cases, according to www.anandtech.com anyways....check it out buddy.....might be good for that brain of yours =)
Ciao, have fun all...
BTW FUgger, I didn't know there was such thign as an Incompatible x86 Processor, you do realize x86 is x86 and nothign chanegs that, so anything that runs on an Intel x86 also runs on an AMD x86 CPU, wanan know why, again, its x86.....BASIC Operations are the same, and are not manipulted.....its not liek its a Motorola (G3 & G4) or an Alpha or Sparc......
BTW, did anyoen know the Athlon, beign an x86 processor is castrated...it would be a MUCH faster CPU if it didnt have to be x86 based......food for thought... =)
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Exactly what is your Intel calculator telling you here?
Does your P4 modify pricewatch and so prevent you from seeing the truth that a 1.8 P4 costs $206 (now) v.s. $115 for 1.4 Athlon. My calculator tells me that the price is not the same, and that in fact the 1.8 P4 costs 79% <b>more</b> than its Athlon 'equivalent'.
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FUGGER, there is no need for screaming and whining, there aren’t anybody listening to you any more. And you just scare the possible P4 buyers away with all your crap. You sound a little desperate right now.
Truth is: Athlon XP1700 equals the P4 2.0
AthlonXP 1800 equals the P4 2.2
There has to be a long time since you stopped reading tests and benchmarks on the internet.
Talk about being in denial!! I pity you… (well, NOT…)
To all CPU buyers: AthlonXP is 20% more performance at 50% less cost. And believe me, this s**t about exploding Athlons only shows how desperate the Intel owners have become.
On a kt266a mobo the 1.4ghz tbird is roughly equal to a 2ghz p4, on a amd760 board the 1.4 is equal to a 1.8ghz p4, since the 1.4 is much cheaper the p4 is a bad decision.
Ignore what FUGGER says, even though I have decided to let him be, he is still not the best sourse for reliable correct unbiased oppinion on this forum.
~Matisaro~
"The Cash Left In My Pocket,The BEST Benchmark"
~Tbird1.3@1.5~
Yes, the Athlon is in many cases faster than the 1.8GHz P4 and even the 2GHz chip. As far as thermal problems and incompatibilities, I administer an entire network of Athlon machines (2 Intel boxes out of 60 machine), from the orginal 500MHz SlotA chips up to the current Athlon XP. I have no problems with them.
Even my main WIN2K domain controller is running Athlon MP 1.2's on the Tyan Thunder K7, replacing dual PIII 866's on the Supermicro 370DLE.
GO AMD!!!!!!!!!
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Connie on 10/30/01 11:21 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
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