Hey guys,
Been a very long time since I have posted here, none of you know me.. no doubt, but im having a horrendous issue, a computer issue, a serious issue, and i apologise mostly for posting in here, but due to not knowing what the problem is I will post in here hoping all you computer guru's of the world will unite behind my cause, ok enough of the waffle and let me explain.
I recently purchased a new mother board and a graphics card to go with it, being a Asrock p4vt8+ mother board and a connect 3d Radeon 9250 256mb graphics card. I had a ultra DMA mode 6 60 gig HD, dvd rom, cd rw, and 768 ddr ram (333) and a celeron 2.6 ghz running in another machine, they worked fine, no probs.
So i place the new mother board in the case, transferred all the other pieces and put in the gcard.. no power, wotso ever, so i upgraded the 250 psu (blush) to a 550 gold thingy that cost $100.. and it booted, after much and many crashes I managed to do a clean install, install all the drivers fpr the gcard and mother board, even updated the drivers for both, but my machine constantly crashes, no blue screen, nothing, just powers down, and is a major pain of rebooting, have to like hold power down for 10 seconds to get it to work.. now first few times it would run for 2 hrs and now its more like 3 mins when it just shuts off completely... I took it to my friends coz i thought when i transfered the processor it looked a lil light on the thermal compound, put loads on, booted up (using his kettle leads and mouse keyboard of his) and it didnt crash, problem solved i thought, he put it through 2 sandra soft test runs, even left cpu of burn arthimetic test for 30 mins... copied a dvd contents to the desktop, so it did some of stuff, no crashes for 2 hours....
So i take it back to my house, plug all my stuff back in, working fine, start downloading a large file, go to make dinner come back and its off, rebooted and the same issue as before,... im at a loss wot to do, ive tried unpluggin stuff, and wotnot... did i buy a faulty motherboard? and sorry for my bad english.. im lazy
If A equals success, then the formula is: A=X+Y+Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut.
Umm I would post this in pretty much any section and you just say you think its related to that.
Example: Cpu section, I think my CPU is overheating... you get the picture, posting in the other might no be the best idea you had
ANyway get a monitoring software(sometimes come with mobo) else get <A HREF="http://mbm.livewiredev.com/" target="_new">MBM 5</A> (get the right version for your mobo) and check your temps and your voltage.
Its etiehr : Power supply(even if its new shinny and 100$), Cpu over heating and thats pretty much it.
I was just thinking bout the power sockets, in the house that is, had no sockets placed around the house a few months ago.. but the other computer worked fine at the same point. SO i will try that either way when i get home from work.
battery ? i dont have one of those.
not overheating, was very cool in the room last night when it went down again...
nothing overclocked..
mouse keyboard... i was thinkin maybe trying that too as i have a usb mouse, which my friend didnt... seems weird the way it just shuts off like that... if it is a problem with the USB sockets i would assume the mother board is sorta screwed..
but thanks for your opinions, im glad someone else is sorta thinking along the same lines as me..
If A equals success, then the formula is: A=X+Y+Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut.
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The room temp is not that important, monitor temps/voltage and log them so you can go check the logs too see what was the status right before it crashed
Asrock generally are a genuine piece of shite, so it's definitely a suspect, but I'm inclined to go with an overheating problem, although it seems to be intermittent.
Download MBM5 and see what happens to your temp/voltages over a few hours doing various CPU intensive tasks. That'd probably be a good start.
ANyway get a monitoring software(sometimes come with mobo) else get MBM 5 (get the right version for your mobo) and check your temps and your voltage.
Its etiehr : Power supply(even if its new shinny and 100$), Cpu over heating and thats pretty much it.
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Thanks for the advice, but I dont think it is either, Because of the sandra soft tests done on it for 2 hrs straight, and although i brought this new power supply after the other one didnt boot, i did place a older one in that did boot it as well, i honeslty believe its more, an external power issue, but the old pc ran fine for 3 months solid, and with regards to the mother board monitor, i dont know how i would run this if it keeps crashing.. but i will never the less take your advice on board and try...
If A equals success, then the formula is: A=X+Y+Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut.
ok ive gotten home
i plugged into a different socket set, no crash yet, i installed mm5 but i dont think it supports this motherboard, i hazard a guess at what range it was but it was saying the cpu was running at 129 celcius, which i dont think would be the case otherwise id be smelling buring or something... thats hot in anyones book
so i installed hardware sensors monitor and its saying the following...
cpu 70 celcius, 1 degree either way
voltages...
+12V : 11.25V
+5V : 5.03V
core : 1.63V
I/O : +3.3V
not sure wot any of that means...
i guess i will go check out the other sockets now, plug it back in,.. see if it crashes hope it does
If A equals success, then the formula is: A=X+Y+Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut.
Aslo that 11.25 is really too low, thats probably causing the instability, Wusy will tell you he's running his rig at 11V no problemo but that can cause instability nevertheless. I suggest getting another, exchanging it/RMA...
Agree with better results closer to 12 volts, but increasing voltage will also create more heat.
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Thanks guys, you've been immensly helpful... Ive been using computers for a long time now, prolly not as long as you guys, but never the less, i must be the only person who has gone 10 years without a faulty pc purchase till now lol..
well i plugged it in the sockets that seemed to be the crash problem, but that doesnt mean anything coz last time it ran for a hour before i jus continually crashed, as with regards to the heat.. im almost 100% sure its giving a wrong reading, coz ive had it running a hour now, same temp... i even blew a small fan into there for 15 mins and its not changing the temp, i turned off the machine and touched the the heatsink it was almost cold the the touch.. the cpu is fine, i double checked that yesterday, hell i even cleaned it all off, and put a big ol blob of silver thermo compound to make sure and attached it, im watching the fan now spin on top, not a expensive heatsink, but i dont overclock so really dont need one dont think... im gonna go now, visit me mother in hospital, leave this running, downloading what it was yesterday before it went cookoo on me, see if it does it again, ive noticed also that when i press the power button i dont need to hold it down 10 seconds no more to boot it.. so hopefully i will come back in a couple of hours and give u a positive update, hopefully...
have a good day
If A equals success, then the formula is: A=X+Y+Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut.
Ok, you can see those reading in the bios, if you reboot and go directly too the bios you can see the readings that should be within 5c of the actual temps in widnows...
Also I would make sur the CPU is perfectly fitted in the socket and resit maybe even do a 180 on the heat sink!
ok i didnt reply anymore coz it kept doing the 30 seconds after loading crashing again, put the graphics card in a friends pc nothing, put there graphics card in my pc still crashed, dissassembled, put the processor in a older pc, ran sandra soft burn turn over nite, computer still running after 8 hours..
seems like a faulty motherboard..
thanks for the help
If A equals success, then the formula is: A=X+Y+Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut.
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this one, but i think we can rule out the psu as that was the third one i tried, first one being a 250watt didnt boot it at all, the 300 did boot but crashed still, as did the 550, like i said, processor, hard drives, graphic cards, cables, psu everything apart from the mother board in a different machine worked pucker for 9 hrs straight, doing sandra soft burn test 10 times over without a single hick up..
so being that its 99.99999999% likely to be the motherboard, should I get a replacement board, or add more money and get a different brand, as you guys saying asrock sucks.. any brands i should look out for ?
If A equals success, then the formula is: A=X+Y+Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut.
I have not finished my coffee yet, not that that makes me any smarter or quicker, but I don't think problim is PSU, its that assrock.
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You should not put too much thermal compound on, too much and it acts like an insulator. Probably not the cause of problems but you should sort it out anyway.
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You could have saved money with an Athlon XP system and an SiS chipset board, and likely had a mediocum of stability.
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ok i get the subtle hint... but i dont have much choice in the board i can get... but i will try and get a $50,0000 all in one wonder abit asus 10 billion pin ultra dma 100000 , 200000 mill usb motherboard
If A equals success, then the formula is: A=X+Y+Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut.
I'm being completely straight with you: a cheap SiS chipset board would have likely been more stable and just as inexpensive. If you needed to save money, I would have considered the CPU as a good place to cut cost.
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