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zengeos   11-02-2001 at 02:58:35 PM

According to both Monarch Computers and Athlonxp.com, the XP1900+ is now shipping in limited quantities to vendors in preparation for the official release announcement sometime next week (probably the same time AMD and nVidia officially release nForce with board availability.

XP1900+ should perform roughly equivalent to between a 2.1ghzP4 and 2.2ghz P4. This is scheduled to be the last speed increase for Athlon until next year.

Should be interesting!

Mark-

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bront   11-02-2001 at 04:08:39 PM
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In other news...

AMD announced it will include a freon cooling unit with the retail Athlon XP 1900+.

Seriously, it should be interesting to see how much the heat increase is from model to model. Has anyone ever seen a review that showed heat progression of each CPU?

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zengeos   11-02-2001 at 04:29:01 PM
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Well, Athlon is about the same temp in the core as P4 unless overclocked, so I wouldn't be overly concerned. XP1900 is likely about 10% cooler than Athlon T-bird 1.4.


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AMD_Man   11-02-2001 at 05:43:39 PM
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It will be cooler than a 2GHz P4.

AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor

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bum_jcrules   11-02-2001 at 07:32:17 PM
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Do you have a URL for that?

Please post it...

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AMD_Man   11-02-2001 at 08:31:47 PM
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um, I think he was joking!

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girish   11-02-2001 at 08:38:41 PM
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he IS joking!

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bront   11-02-2001 at 08:45:36 PM
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Glad someone figured that out. Usually a ;) and then saying seriously to continue the rest of the post tends to clue most people in.

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bum_jcrules   11-02-2001 at 08:47:27 PM
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Actually all they have to do is drop the die size again and that will drop the heat. Or they could redesign the core.

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bum_jcrules   11-02-2001 at 09:11:55 PM
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Ouch, was that a white glove slap or are you just handing me my stupid card?

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juin   11-02-2001 at 09:12:24 PM
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Well, Athlon is about the same temp in the core as P4 unless overclocked

LOL any P4 run 5 to 10 celcius lower that any PAL or t-bird it been alwayse like that.Me P4 1.7 run at 46 celcius with retail fan (3200) and retail HSF and no case fan (not for long).

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AMD_Man   11-02-2001 at 09:23:43 PM
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Juin, 46oC is ok, but my overclocked Athlon has lower temps. I get around 42oC idle nad 48oC full load.

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khha4113   11-02-2001 at 09:32:26 PM
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LOL any P4 run 5 to 10 celcius lower that any PAL or t-bird it been alwayse like that.


Until you <b>actually</b> run AMD's, you shouldn't have made any <b><font color=red>false</b></font color=red> comment like this. My KG7-RAID with TB1000@1333MHz is running cooler than your P4(~42C, at full load ~48C)!
BTW, I'm using Volcano 5 that costed me 10 bucks!

:smile: Good or Bad have no meaning at all, depends on what your point of view is.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by khha4113 on 11/02/01 04:26 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

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AmdMELTDOWN   11-02-2001 at 11:20:50 PM
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close your case and see what temps you get.

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AMD_Man   11-02-2001 at 11:33:13 PM
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AMDMeltdown, I have an Athlon and my temps are ~42C Idle and ~48C and my case is closed!

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Kelledin   11-02-2001 at 11:36:29 PM
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Hmmm...why don't we ask that question in <A HREF="http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=246848" target="_new">HardOCP's Intel heartland</A>, where every comment is bound to be in favor of Intel...

I especially love quotes like this:

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1.5 GHz P4 @1982 is 38c idle and 58c load. that's with the regular heatsink and arctic silver 2


58C? My T-bird never goes over 51C. The fastest Athlon (the XP 1800) runs even cooler while outperforming any P4 currently in production. :tongue:

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I have a 1.7 Ghz P4 and Abit TH7-II at 1938 Mhz now (1.9 V set in the BIOS), and the hardware monitor shows about 42 C idle. Goes up to about 57 under load.


Oh, only at 1.7GHz? My T-bird runs cooler and faster than that...

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With 1.75V, mine runs about 33C idle, all the way up to near 60C during full load. And, I *know* I've got good cooling for my case.


Aww, another P4 "success story!" Be glad it has thermal protection, cos it needs that protection more than any T-bird in existence. :wink:

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wow, from the looks of that chart, Intel procs past 1.7 ghz-ish run hotter than the Thuderbirds (1.4 ghz).


The truth is revealed! RoFL LOL :lol:

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P.S. Yes, this was a low blow, but I despise someone who spouts unresearched/false opinions as if they were hard facts. This smackdown is brought to you by Kelledin and his eternal disdain for hatchet burial.

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Intel_inside   11-03-2001 at 12:01:37 AM
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so what is the real mhz rating of the 1900+, not the 'lets confuse consumers' rating

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juin   11-03-2001 at 12:09:32 AM
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maybe with 2 case fan a cpu fan at 7200 and a 32 water colling

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AMD_Man   11-03-2001 at 12:15:59 AM
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1.6GHz, I believe, but it should perform similarly to a 2.2GHz P4 and a 1.9GHz Athlon (T-bird).

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AMD_Man   11-03-2001 at 12:18:06 AM
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He said he was running a Volcano 5. It is very possible. Without any overclocking (CPU and graphics), my temps are in the 30s but I'm using 2 cases a 2-fan Enermax Whisper, and a GlobalWin WBK-38.

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zengeos   11-03-2001 at 01:13:16 AM
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1.609ghz actually, I think ;)

So what is the real performance of that 2ghz P4 Juin?

Oh!! similar to 1.5ghz P3? or 1.4ghz Athlon
hmmm... 2ghz doesn't sound like such a deal now and 1.6ghz (XP1900+) is looking better all the time in comparison.

My poiunt.. don't be trolling silly questions like that Juin. It demeans you.

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zengeos   11-03-2001 at 01:15:03 AM
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Sorrythe rhetorical/counter questions were for Juin, not you...just wanted to be clear on that:)

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lhgpoobaa   11-03-2001 at 01:34:41 AM
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actually we were talking about energy output as heat... not temperature... subtly different things.

and the pentium 4 DOES put out more thermal energy than equivalent athlons.
its just that with the large heatspreader its able to dissapate it better.




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Kelledin   11-03-2001 at 03:10:01 AM
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Not much though. Some people are speculating that the P4 would get better cooling <i>without</i> the heat spreader. All I know is that even <i>with</i> the heat spreader, the P4s are generally reported to run hotter than equivalent Athlons.

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AMD_Man   11-03-2001 at 03:43:02 AM
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That wasn't Juin who asked the question. It was Intel_inside.

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zengeos   11-03-2001 at 06:38:31 AM
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OK I admit it!! I'm getting old and it's showing!

sigh

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lhgpoobaa   11-03-2001 at 08:19:02 AM
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hey brent...
the XP 1800+ puts out a max of 66W of energy, same as the athlon 1200C, well below the 72W for the athlon 1.4. so the 1900+ is still well below the athlon 1.4... and amd could proly get another 2 speed grades out of it before thermal output exceeds the athlon 1.4

i did a another thread on it today, in the CPU room

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Negaverse23   11-03-2001 at 10:16:19 AM
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Tom got his in a cracker jack box. :P
Most likely AMD sent it to him.

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Negaverse23   11-03-2001 at 10:25:37 AM
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No idea. 1x00+ sounds more like a PR rating.

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khha4113   11-03-2001 at 10:32:17 AM
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Quote :

close your case and see what temps you get.


It is <b>closed</b>!

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khha4113   11-03-2001 at 10:34:22 AM
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maybe with 2 case fan a cpu fan at 7200 and a 32 water colling


Can't you read? It is air-cooled HSF <b>Volcano 5</b> (with 4500RPM Fan) or you know some water cooling devices sell for 10 bucks!

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lhgpoobaa   11-03-2001 at 11:46:47 AM
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i think the 1x00+ is just code for whatever comes next... ie the 1900+

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Matisaro   11-04-2001 at 04:29:38 AM
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A little less than the 1.33ghz tbird.

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lhgpoobaa   11-04-2001 at 04:41:46 AM
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doing the math... from the electrical specification table: (full load wattages used)
athie 1.4 = 72W
xp 1500+ = 60W
xp 1600+ = 62.8W
xp 1700+ = 64W
xp 1800+ = 66W
therefore:
xp 1900+ ~ 68W
xp 2000+ ~ 70W
xp 2100+ ~ 72W

course these are approximations... dont think the relationship is quite linear, think its a bit exponential.

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