If you want to be able to simply plug it in and dump songs to it you want an iRiver. I'm pretty damned sure you need to use a software app to put music on both of those other mp3 players. The iPod needs to convert to it's proprietary format to play the songs. Everything apple is just proprietary garbage, you shouldn't even consider it
My little brother has an iRiver iHP-120 and it is absolutely fantastic. The sound quality is good, it has lots of sweet features, and the battery life is crazy.
folken ur such a great help, but the zen touch and iRiver, they are abunch the extact same also. So its really a matter of taste right? And right now, i am liking the touch because i have no idea. Anyhow, creative might come out with a new mp3 player before my birthday and i get one.
The creative is going to have very nice sound quality, probably a little better than the iRiver. My only beef with creative players is that they don't play as many formats. I'm into ogg so that would be a prob for me but if you don't care about ogg, asf, etc you should be fine
Creative players have been very big also but the touch and micro seem to have fixed that problem
The H10 has a much smaller form factor but only has a capacity of 5GB. The H320 is slightly larger but has a capacity of 20GB. If you need it to be very small and dont need more than 5GB go for the H10. If you want/need 20GB go for the H320.
i guess im going with the iriver. although i dont acually like the looks, tom gives it a better review than the zen touch. who knows, creative or iriver might make a new product with a more sleek appearance in the next 2months.
That is always a possibility. I'm more of a function over fashion sort of person though so I really have no opinion of how sleek or stylish something looks. When I see something I only see the buttons it has, how many, where are they, and what they do. I have no fashion sense at all. You would probably be able to tell that instantly if you met me My entire wardrobe consists of solid colored pocket t-shirts and brown slacks, lol. I even have my assortment of pens (no pocket protector though). All I need are a set of thick lensed glasses and I'd fit the exact profile of geek.