What is intel doing?
I am utterly amused at what a company like intel is doing! Have a look:
1. What is their flagship platform for the P3? Obviously the 815. Now how can they promote a platform like 815 for the whole range of desktops to workstations and even servers which has a max memory limit of 512 MB!?
What other chipset/platform do they have for the mainstream PC that can access even a MB more than 512? I miss the BX chipset but it simply isnt today's chipset. I liked to call the 815 the SuperBX but as things stand, especially with the launch of WindowsXP most people will want to get more than half a GB RAM. And their intel board will miserably fail at it. Solution? Turn to VIA or SiS or Ali!
2. The are phasing out their best performing platform, the P3! Its totally insane, inexplicable, especially after they made a new model Tualatin for it with a number of enhancements like new 0.13u process, differential clock, larger cache (and of course, a new socket spec) that will enable it reach higher FSB, consume lower power and perform still better! They made just two models and then they say P3 will be phased out! With 1.2 GHz already working at 1600 overclocked, cant they see any potential still left in it?
3. Introducing SDRAM for a P4 was a joke on the people. Even worse than the s423->s478 shift. P4+SDRAM (worst is s423 P4 + SDRAM) simply isnt a platform. And then a consolation half a year later to support the DDR is not too great either. As if doing a favour to the customers, they are supporting the DDR-SDRAM on their next i845D chipset, but still limited to PC1600 when the world has already moved to PC2100, and fast adopting PC2700 and PC3200 proposed.
4. They have now introduced a value chipset - the i815EG for socket370 processors. Dont be mistaken, people thought 815 was the 810 with external AGP support. It in fact was true since nothing practically changed with the i815E chipset from the 810E2 except the AGP slot. <b>Beware of the i815EG</b>: It is a 815 chipset with just integrated graphics, no external AGP support but supporting Tualatins. Its in fact a B step i810E2! They obviously couldnt call it the i810E B0, its long dead. So if you think i815 = i810 + AGP, skip this chipset. I saw the Asus TUEG board, that looks the same PCB as the CUSL2-M except the AGP slot.
5. Today's P4 will be Celeron of tommorow! What a thought! Its a fact that traditionally Celeron has always lagged behind its big brother (PII or PIII) by exactly 33 MHz and half the cache (initial Celerons 266/300 MHz dint have any cache at all, later they came with 128k cache which was actually a quarter of the PII/PIII, but since Coppermine times PII itself came with half the cache of the Katmai) - now P4 is going 133 MHz FSB (533 effective) and 512k cache.
6. Next year you are in for a surprise! An integrated chipset for P4! Imagine what a P4 + SDRAM + int graphics do? P3 was by itself a very good peformer yet everybody saw what happened to it with the 810. Now P4, a lesser performer is paired with integrated graphics and SDRAM! Anybody could tell its chances.
This is not a troll, just to bring forth things known to everybody at one place. There are more, but just these many are enough to fire a hot discussion. I purposely did not write about AMD and P4 heating. These things arent supposed to be there in this thread, just your views on intel policies like above.
Thanks.
girish
<font color=red>No system is fool-proof. Fools are Ingenious!</font color=red>
I am utterly amused at what a company like intel is doing! Have a look:
1. What is their flagship platform for the P3? Obviously the 815. Now how can they promote a platform like 815 for the whole range of desktops to workstations and even servers which has a max memory limit of 512 MB!?
What other chipset/platform do they have for the mainstream PC that can access even a MB more than 512? I miss the BX chipset but it simply isnt today's chipset. I liked to call the 815 the SuperBX but as things stand, especially with the launch of WindowsXP most people will want to get more than half a GB RAM. And their intel board will miserably fail at it. Solution? Turn to VIA or SiS or Ali!
2. The are phasing out their best performing platform, the P3! Its totally insane, inexplicable, especially after they made a new model Tualatin for it with a number of enhancements like new 0.13u process, differential clock, larger cache (and of course, a new socket spec) that will enable it reach higher FSB, consume lower power and perform still better! They made just two models and then they say P3 will be phased out! With 1.2 GHz already working at 1600 overclocked, cant they see any potential still left in it?
3. Introducing SDRAM for a P4 was a joke on the people. Even worse than the s423->s478 shift. P4+SDRAM (worst is s423 P4 + SDRAM) simply isnt a platform. And then a consolation half a year later to support the DDR is not too great either. As if doing a favour to the customers, they are supporting the DDR-SDRAM on their next i845D chipset, but still limited to PC1600 when the world has already moved to PC2100, and fast adopting PC2700 and PC3200 proposed.
4. They have now introduced a value chipset - the i815EG for socket370 processors. Dont be mistaken, people thought 815 was the 810 with external AGP support. It in fact was true since nothing practically changed with the i815E chipset from the 810E2 except the AGP slot. <b>Beware of the i815EG</b>: It is a 815 chipset with just integrated graphics, no external AGP support but supporting Tualatins. Its in fact a B step i810E2! They obviously couldnt call it the i810E B0, its long dead. So if you think i815 = i810 + AGP, skip this chipset. I saw the Asus TUEG board, that looks the same PCB as the CUSL2-M except the AGP slot.
5. Today's P4 will be Celeron of tommorow! What a thought! Its a fact that traditionally Celeron has always lagged behind its big brother (PII or PIII) by exactly 33 MHz and half the cache (initial Celerons 266/300 MHz dint have any cache at all, later they came with 128k cache which was actually a quarter of the PII/PIII, but since Coppermine times PII itself came with half the cache of the Katmai) - now P4 is going 133 MHz FSB (533 effective) and 512k cache.
6. Next year you are in for a surprise! An integrated chipset for P4! Imagine what a P4 + SDRAM + int graphics do? P3 was by itself a very good peformer yet everybody saw what happened to it with the 810. Now P4, a lesser performer is paired with integrated graphics and SDRAM! Anybody could tell its chances.
This is not a troll, just to bring forth things known to everybody at one place. There are more, but just these many are enough to fire a hot discussion. I purposely did not write about AMD and P4 heating. These things arent supposed to be there in this thread, just your views on intel policies like above.
Thanks.
girish
<font color=red>No system is fool-proof. Fools are Ingenious!</font color=red>
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