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Now I know this is ethically unsound of me but guys I am in a serious quandary here. Or maybe I'm just a bastage idiot for thinking it but I dont lie about shite like this... and anyways:

I'm seeing this chick [cumbags and drugs thread].

She does Xtc and wants me to drop with her - the pressure is on. I just got a text msg and the rudeness of what she wants to do to me tonight [Friday night] is just too rude to post. Ok, maybe not but I did warn you, it reads:

"Bomber, I want to blow you until you cream, root you until you drop and dance with you on X until we drift into Highway heaven" [supplement Bomber for my first name and you get the pic].

Doods, I am anti-drugs but EVERYBODY tells me this shite is soft and once wont hurt me.

Who of you would do it? Anybody?

I'm a morally bankrupt shitebag if I do this aren't I? Eden has told me not to.

No = 1. Yes = 0 and a hot chick in a lime-green-mini-skirt! That'a BIG 0!!!

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Fu<b></b>ck it ... do it ... and you'll know if it was a good idea tomorrow ... if you see tomorrow ... I've done it, worked for me.


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Reply to Jake_Barnes

xtc can be really dangerous if you don't have a clean source of it.

here most drug related deaths are from household chemicals being substituted with xtc and the people ingesting truly poisonous stuff. or it being cut with somthing dodge.

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Reply to alltaken

I am so tempted but I feel like an evil bastage for thinking 'yes'.

So JB - How cool is it? This chick reckons its bliss for a few hours, particularly if you are with the right people, and we will be given that its a groovy penthouse party that we are going to rather than some dingy nightclub scene.

I am so tempted.

Jeez, its 3pm and Friday night awaits... Visions of her ass swaying in front of me is giving me the shakes. Damn women - its a curse, I tell you, a curse of epic proportions!!! :lol:

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Reply to BomberBill

Yeah, I figured it was Russian Roulette with this illicit shite. The dood we are going to owns this penthouse and she reckons he gets only the best shite in town. Now I dont believe half-arsed statements about the 'best shite in town' but the temptation is killing me.

I thought I would be stronger on this issue but I see that I am not.

Tragic? Probably, but you only live once. Damn it - this is so hard, you know.

I must be :eek: .

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Reply to BomberBill

You only live once ...


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Reply to Jake_Barnes

I wouldn't. I draw the line at synthetics. That's just me though. I don't think the risk is worth the reward. To get the reward I'd probably fake taking it.

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Reply to dhlucke

Now that's half-clever, D.

Except, I wouldn't know how the fock to act and then every joker pokes shite at me all night and she ends up porking some high loser for 6 hours while I head home for a belittling hand-shandy!!! :lol:

Good point though, but I'm either in or I kiss goodbye to this.


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Reply to BomberBill

Having a bad experience on drugs is really terrible. I can't stress that enough. I don't know what a bad x trip would be like but I'm sure it's nasty.

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Reply to dhlucke

Fellas, I got to roll. Cheers for the input. I got a couple of hours to think about it but at the moment I'm thinking yes - just this once.

Famous last words, eh??? I just dig this chick too much to say no and lose this gig. I've waited all my life for this kind of sex and I'm too proud to cut it loose.

I'll let you know how it goes if I say yes. Maybe I'm made of sterner stuff? We'll see.

Anyways, gentleman, I'm off to what I hope will be a safe and ripping party or a shitehoused hand-shandy!!!

Take it easy. :smile: :smile:

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Reply to BomberBill

The symptoms of Extacy can be seen in the user after 20 minutes of consuming the drug. Symptoms involve a pounding and racing heart, a dry mouth, large pupils, muscular tension (in both the face and the body), cramps, twitching and a churning stomach. Also, feeling hot and sticky is very common. Being very affectionate with everything around you, giggling uncontrollably and talking excessively are all normal symptoms after taking a pill. Music is said to get better and lights too have been said to get brighter. Eyes might get itchy and puffed while vision will become blurred. Grinding of teeth and clenching of both fists and your jaw are also common reactions. The body can also release a chemical known as ADH (anti diuretic hormone) that stops you from peeing as often as you should. An overdose can lead to vomiting, dizziness, head pains and terrible cramping. Overdoses can happen from even one pill, depending on the person and the pill and its quantities. All these pains occur because Extacy puts an extremely big strain on your heart, kidney and lungs. The "peak" while on Extacy is from 60-90 minutes. Effects can last from 4-6 hours if pure MDMA, 3-5 hours if MDEA, and 8-10 hours if MDA. These are just approximations, effects will last depending on the weight and purity of the pill. Also, effects will depend on the mental and physical sate of the user. On the "comedown", effects can be the opposite of those when at the peak. The user might feel tired and depressed, and a little confused and dazed. Memory loss and appetite gain can also occur. Long term users may experience colds and flu after every comedown. Also, long term male users might experience erection problems to up to 40%, and may also see that the size of their penis will decrease. This is not rare, and is thought to happen because of the amphetamine mixed into the pill. (1,2,3,5,7)
Although the long term effects of Extacy have not been proven yet, many scientists believe that Extacy can lead to brain damage and memory loss in addictive users. Many tests have been done which show that MDMA damages certain neurons in the brain that release a chemical called seratonin (5 HT hydroxytryptamine). This chemical controls emotions, sleep, appetite,
memory and reasoning. Basically, cells release seratonin when a person needs to feel happy. After this "happy stage" of the person has come, the cells then release other chemicals to take away the seratonin, leaving the person to feel normal again. When Extacy is used, it blocks the cell after it releases the seratonin, causing the person to feel happy for longer. Eventually, the seratonin cycle is affected and the person is constantly stressed and depressed. Low amounts of seratonin can lead to depression and anxiety. A simple way to see if you are even slightly being affected by low seratonin is to see if it is now impossible for you to go a week without taking Extacy and only when you do take Extacy, you feel happy. If this has been happening to you, doctors suggest that you immediately catch up on your sleep and appetite, and also give about a month for your body to go without Extacy. Memory loss has been spotted in users in up to 2 weeks after taking the drug. Tests performed at the John Hopkins University show that people on MDMA scored lower on memory tests than others who had never taken MDMA before. The Hopkins University did a new study to monkeys. In this the researchers would feed the
monkeys with either salt water, or MDMA twice a day, for four days. The monkeys had their brains examined two weeks after this experiment and also 6 years after this experiment. In the examination made two weeks after the experiment, researchers found there to be damage to the seratonin neurons in some parts of the brain. The parts that were damaged included the necortex, which is where the conscious lies, and the hippocampus, where long term memories are stored. The monkeys that had their brains checked 6 years after were thought to have very little recovery in the number of seratonin in their brains. Although little recovery was found, it was only seen in some parts of the brain, while other affected parts had not recovered at all. Doctors are now asking the question on if these results are the same for humans. Brain scans were also done to people who had used Extacy 200 times in five years. The scans showed there to be major brain damage in these patients, and scans also showed that these damages got worse as the user took more Extacy. Also, a recent autopsy on a heavy user of
Extacy found there to be 60-80% less seratonin in his brain. (1,2,7,8,9)
Besides the long-term effects of Extacy on people, there is also the everyday danger of dehydration and over heating when taking Extacy. Extacy is usually taken at raves or parties, and people dance the whole night when they take them. By itself, the drug already has dehydrating substances, and dancing makes the body loose even more fluids. Most deaths that have happened
have occurred due to dehydration and heat stroke. When the body starts to overheat, small clots start to appear in the bloodstream. This causes brain tissue in the body and the brain to bleed. This bleeding can cause comas and heat-stroke's. The need to drink around a pint of water or energy drinks every hour is vital for those users who are dancing. Alcohol is a bad choice in drink, because it dehydrates the body too. Also, excessive drinking can lead to water intoxication, which is a problem within itself, and can also cause the brain to swell which may lead to comas. Water isn't some sort of remedy for curing Extacy, but only helps fight off the dehydrating qualities that the drug contains. Eating salty snacks is also a good idea. Also, taking a break from the dancing is recommended for the heart to give itself a break. For the body to recover from Extacy, lots of Vitamin C and Calcium are needed. Also, sleeping and eating is another way of recovery, since a lot of energy is lost from the dancing and being hyper while at the peak. (1,3,4,7)
Extacy has been one of the drugs most desired by the public in the past decade. It is known to carry a risk factor along with it, but this factor seems to have become exaggerated by the media to certain levels. Although it is no "Killer Drug", Extacy has caused some deaths. Most of these deaths could have been prevented if the users had been careful. After saying all this, I must state again that Extacy is among the Class A group of drugs. This group contains the most dangerous drugs, and that is why all people are recommended to stay far away from this drug as possible.

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Reply to dhlucke

Give it a shot ...


Edit: Hope I didn't kill him ... but he's a big boy ...


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Reply to Jake_Barnes

I hope the sex was good :)

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Reply to Starfishy

Do what you want - If you die you die.

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Reply to Ned_Flanders

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I wouldn't. I draw the line at synthetics. That's just me though. I don't think the risk is worth the reward. To get the reward I'd probably fake taking it.



The problem with this idea is that even if you pulled it off on the spot you would not be able to keep up with her, after a few hours.

Of course the one time sex thing is appealing but a long(er) term relationship with this woman would not be for me. She needs the drug in order to become the person you like (is that correct)? If so, this is not going to work ever. You have not experienced her, being off the dope.

Would I be tempted enough to try it for myself once? I don't think so but I haven't been in such a position yet. I do know some people that had to cope with withdrawal effects though, and that looked nasty, so I guess this isnt for me.



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Reply to BigMac

I did that crap quite often years ago ... nothing really bad happened except this noticeable brain damage ...


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Reply to Jake_Barnes

Lol, funny how you nothing really bad and brain damage in the same sentence!!! gotta love it.

Did speed once and not much I might add, and I really dont think its worth it! I'll stick with beer and green stuff even if both of them do have repercusion btu they do take much more time to get to "a point of no return".

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Reply to Anonymous

It's unfair to be anti-drug with out trying them. X and Acid are relatively safe in the grand scheme of things. Just avoid cocaine derivitives and meth unless you're sure of what you're getting into. The more pure the x the better. pure x is soft be euphoric, x can be cut with *anything* and impure x is... iffy. *alot* of people have been cutting it with viagra/cialis/etc... so avoid if you got heart problems. If you're in "decent" phsycial health with no real problems, I'd say roll with. It's yer call, don't let her push you into it, do it if you want to. If yer not gonna do it, let her know though, don't try to fake it... its quite obvious whos on x generally.

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Reply to shadus

brain damage? [snickers]

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Reply to mrface

ive never done x myself but ive been around countless people on it. its really pathetic watching them. they need drugs to have fun. ive hung out with people after they decided to stop taking the drug, they are depressed for a long time, not because of drug withdrawls, but because everything is so much more dull after taking those kinds of drugs. though if you do it, bring mentholatum rub and a face mask, that stuff is supposed to feel incredible on x.

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Reply to jihiggs

People say Alcohol is a drug. It's not a drug, it's a drink [/BrassEye]

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Reply to Ned_Flanders

technicaly alcohol could be classified as a drug but it also hasnt changed much since its invention. weed for instance has been altered significantly to be more potent, as for xtc, its chemicaly created in a lab to begin with. since when do people know anything about being safe with body chemistry? as with anything in life, too much is bad for you. single doses of xtc in their standard form are already too much. alcohol in moderation is not a bad thing. a couple beers with dinner isnt enough to even affect 99% of people. any standard dose of xtc makes you start dry humping everything in sight and seriously affects your body.

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Reply to jihiggs

Really? Now I really want to try it. Thanks for turning me onto X.

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Reply to dhlucke

why do you find dry humping everything in sight appealing?

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Reply to jihiggs

I was joking. Nonetheless, I'd like to be around women on X if that's the case.

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Reply to dhlucke

I have ... and it is the case ... amazing really.


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Reply to Jake_Barnes

Go on. Don't leave me hanging!

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Reply to dhlucke

We used to call it the love drug ... all you want to do is make love ... and, well ... that's about it ... especially chicks ... it's is a "Spanish Fly"!



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Reply to Jake_Barnes

I'm gonna start handing it out in my apt complex. You've talked me into it.

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Reply to dhlucke

I can only hope you did the rational choice.

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Reply to eden

You mean taping her ass?

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Reply to dhlucke

Naw that's what I plan to do to you, you sweet cheeks.

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Reply to eden

What has Auburn done to you??!!!

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Reply to dhlucke

His ass met me, and we had a nice 'tea' time.

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Reply to eden

So now your'e selling drugs? At least you are trying to sell "us" on how terrific an illegal drug is, wow, Jake...

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Reply to TeeTewl

You gotta admit, it sounds great. I say we all have a THGC drug night once a week.

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Reply to dhlucke

I say fake taking the X and get on with your schtupping.....

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Reply to TeeTewl

I think my great grandmother used to say that. What does it mean?

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Reply to dhlucke

I don't know the trick to swearing with correct spelling...but it's fcuking

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Reply to TeeTewl

Quote :

You mean taping her ass?


Did you mean tapping cause taping could work too...duct taping, videp taping etc.

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Reply to TeeTewl

touche!

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Reply to dhlucke

Hey there fellas. I did not catch D's informative exploration of X before Friday night but I appreciate his sentiments.

I relented. I 'dropped', or so some boozy tart told me on Friday night as I swallowed this white tablet.

How was it? I would be lying if I called it anything less than tremendous. The circumstances were perfect: penthouse suite party; good music; spa; 35 story views encompassing glorious beaches; the best looking women I've seen in ages; and to top it all of a threesome with my chic and another friend of hers.

Unscrupulous debauchery? Sure it was and I felt like a guilty shitebag beforehand, but the night was as enjoyable as I've ever had and I now understand why you cant do that shite regularly: you'll be addicted not only to the drug but to the life it brings so I'm happy to have had it as a one-off only.

It was different to what I expected but the people we were partying with included doctors, lawyers, a physiotherapist a couple of high-end sales guys etc. - it was not some junkie party so I felt that if I got into trouble then I could easily call for help.

Cheers to all for their thoughts on this. :smile:

PS. If I've lowered in anybody's estimations as a person then I completely understand. I would ask for no forgiveness - if you play with the devil and gamble with your soul then its a thin red line you walk - I understand that perfectly.

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Reply to BomberBill

Quote :

It was different to what I expected but the people we were partying with included doctors, lawyers, a physiotherapist a couple of high-end sales guys etc. - it was not some junkie party so I felt that if I got into trouble then I could easily call for help.



and thats the scary thing.

i wouldn't want a doctor who was Fvcked up on drugs. but unfortunatly its more common than we would think.

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Reply to alltaken

:lol:

Ha. AT, I did not mean I would ask for assistance from a high doc at a party - jeez, you crack me up for just thinking that :lol: - but I did not stipulate so its my error.

What I meant was that I knew that if I got into a jam nobody would mind me calling for medical assistance via 000 [911 in the US]. In fact, the people I spoke to there had a very direct approach to drug intake in that excess usage was not welcomed although I hardly think its ethical to be talking about 'moderate' drug usage as if to say its somehow normal - which, of course, it is most certainly not - there are good reasons for why the shite is illegal and should remain so.



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Reply to BomberBill

Hang about. Am I reading this right? You banged your chic <i>and</i> her mate? Fu<b></b>cking nice one my son! Oustanding. I salute you.

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Reply to RobD

Ditto. What a jammy bastard.

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Reply to WingDing

With those results anyone would drop x.

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Reply to dhlucke

See, I'm surely going to he<b></b>ll for suggesting you "give it a go mate". TT has now labeled me a drug dealer ...

For the record, there was and is a lot of humor and kidding in this and these threads ... I am not a drug dealer ... nor do I advocate the use of drugs, alcohol, pre-marital sex, fun, adventure, laughter, fishing, etc ...


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Reply to Jake_Barnes

I do. I advocate all of it. You guys are all a bunch of bitches for not promoting all the good stuff in life.

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