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December 27, 2001 7:19:06 PM

I have recently upgraded my PC in stages and started with a AMD Athlon 1.4Ghz processor, Chaintech MBoard, 512 Ram and 32Mb ATI Radeon graphics card. I reinstalled win98 and all the software and drivers and on start up it always confirms the CPU, it checked the memory, confirmed the drives and then showed the WIN98 start up screen then....nothing, only a dark grey screen which responds only to the reset button on the tower or ctrl-alt-del. The next screen is my desk top but I cant get that far.

After numerous restarts (and the occational start in safe-mode) it will start and nothing else goes wrong: its blisteringly quick and will shut down fine.

Over the course of time, ive upgraded the CD rom, added a DVD drive, changed the monitor to 22", changed the power pack to 300W (this was not to eliminate the problem) but to my dismay the original problem still occurs.

So its either, ram, the MB, the Graphics Card of the CPU. But Im astonished how many people using this web site are experiencing their PC hanging and 9/10 times its associated with Athlon. Can any one help..Ive installed, Win98, winME, win 2000 pro and back to win98 (with a different disk) and no hope. Ive had the Bios set up by a so called pro and the CPU doesnt smell or indicate thats its overheating..the fan is capable of coping with 1.4Ghz CPU and more. Or does anyone know of any compatibility problems?

Ive spent a packet and dont have the patience to reset my PC ten times to use it.

Thanks.

GJSmythe

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December 27, 2001 7:29:33 PM

Is your RAM is 1 stick of 512MB or 2 sticks of 256? BTW, Win98 has problem accessing more than <b><A HREF="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/search/...|5302373" target="_new"><font color=red>512MB of RAM</A></b></font color=red>.

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December 27, 2001 10:45:38 PM

I had a similar problem. It turned out to be the video card. I bought an AMD system with an ATI rage pro video card. After I installed win 98 se and the driver, it would boot, then go blank just before the desktop. I tried every driver from ATI's web site and none of them solved the issue. I ended up getting an ATI AIW video card, and that worked fine.

Please let me know if you find a driver that works for you (if your video card is at fault).
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December 28, 2001 1:29:08 AM

AMD & ATHLON ARE NOT NOW IMPLICATED IN HARDWARE, OS OR DRIVERS PROBLEMS.

there was some cpu compatibility problems with "old" cpu generations (eg cyrix 166+ vs pentium 166) but now it's not more true.


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December 28, 2001 3:11:58 AM

YES!!!
its all amd's fault!
cauz they make cheap processors...
everyone knows cheap = nasty.
the fact that your computer works fine after is only coincodence!!!
it just couldnt be a video/mobo issue cauz nvidia and chaintech are angels of god and can do no wrong!

p.s. osama uses AMD!

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December 28, 2001 4:42:59 AM

It's not your AMD processor, I would put money on it. This is a classic driver problem.

The first thing to do when trying to figure out problems like this is to remove any un-needed crap from your pc. Get rid of modems, sound cards, network cards, etc. Boot to safe mode (assuming you can). Once your desktop is showing, right click on My Computer then Properties. Click on the Device Manager tab, and under System Devices remove the "PCI Bus". Reboot, Windows should start up properly and detect a bunch of hardware, reboot when ever it asks you to. Once your system has all the drivers reinstalled and it is booting properly, install the cards you removed one by one. Make sure everything works correctly before moving on.

Keep us informed.

Sandain


edit: Also try dropping below 512mb memory, 98 does not like it.
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by sandain on 12/28/01 01:46 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
December 28, 2001 5:43:50 AM

im kind of agreeing with skimzzz in that it is probably your vid card. since you need a vid card in the first place to be able to see whats going on, why not stick your old one in there and see how it goes?(im assuming you have one since you said you "upgraded")
December 28, 2001 5:59:10 AM

Chain tech always had problems with video cards. Best idea is call chaintech and talk to them. I found my ati rage fury pro work fine. But G450 would not work. And dont listen to the dummy saying amd make cheap prossesers. He dont know anything about computers.
December 28, 2001 6:15:03 AM

i was hoping that guy was being sarcastic about amd.

anyways, i wanted to add on the comment of 9/10 problems are associated with athlon. maybe thats simply because most of the posters on this board happen to use an athlon processor. most of the problems i have read about had nothing to do with amd causing instability.
December 28, 2001 6:32:53 AM

AMD as a perocessor does not couse any problams, but hardware assosiated with it (VIA chipsets and such) sometimes couse problems.

GJSmythe-
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December 28, 2001 7:20:26 AM

That was a sarcastic joke of him, it's all nonsense to lett you see that AMD in NOT the problem.

My case has so many fans that it hovers above the ground :eek:  .
December 28, 2001 9:23:52 AM

:) 
im glad someone recognises sarcasm *!phew!*

its funny that...
my computer has problem X. therefor, its the processors fault.
everytime i see it i think of:
"dogs have 4 legs, my cat has 4 legs, therfore my cat is a dog..."

and yes, i wanted to make the "chaintech sux's" comment... but i was too busy being sarcastic.

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December 28, 2001 9:24:17 AM

:) 
im glad someone recognises sarcasm *!phew!*

its funny that...
my computer has problem X. therefor, its the processors fault.
everytime i see it i think of:
"dogs have 4 legs, my cat has 4 legs, therfore my cat is a dog..."

and yes, i wanted to make the "chaintech sux's" comment... but i was too busy being sarcastic.

now if u will excuse me, i have festive season porn to browse ;) 

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December 28, 2001 11:42:12 AM

oh ?

i think Intel is expensive because their cpus have very good quality.

no,no, what im trying to say..

i think AMD is cheaper because they are more clever.


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December 28, 2001 11:57:04 AM

I'm pretty sure that 9 of 10 of the problems here are related with AMD systems because 9 of 10 of the users here uses AMD. I personnaly had no problems with my 2 AMD sytems and the double AMD processor server we have at work. Some may tell I'm lucky but I know it's not true. I saw that many problems where reported when building a system, but not everybody is a computer technician.

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December 28, 2001 12:26:35 PM

a lot of people here use AMD because their cpus are more easy to overclock.

and luck is outside of.


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December 28, 2001 3:31:17 PM

i dont see the point of that post=/

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December 28, 2001 5:46:58 PM

strange... i thought it was clear

but maybe it wasn't :) 


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December 28, 2001 10:20:01 PM

:) 
depends where u come from.
being australian i can spot 20 different types of sarcasm...
and we all know that americans just cant get a grip on our sense of humor... or so i have heard ;) 

the way i see it:
intel are expensive (relativly) cauz...
1. they always have been
2. they can get away with it
3. they rely on past performance and image to sell 'quality' and 'performance' (ill let the trolls debate the semantics)
4. with the p4 chip, die size is bigger, thus have to sell at a higher price.

amd are less expensive cauz
1. they can be (yield & diesize)
2. they want in. a bigger slice of the pie (derr). undercutting. corner a market etc.
3. make up for some truly bad chipsets around. cant really blame amd for that.


p.s. dont flame me. these are just opinions.


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December 28, 2001 11:12:02 PM

"I'm pretty sure that 9 of 10 of the problems here are related with AMD systems because 9 of 10 of the users here uses AMD"

so 90% of AMD users here have problems? thanks for verifying that for me, LOL!

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December 28, 2001 11:18:09 PM

Meltdown your stupidy amazes me sometimes.

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December 28, 2001 11:54:09 PM

As long as we have matisaro we need not fear the constant spew of crap that comes from amdmeltdown.

And as far as fault finding goes why don't you find what the problem is, why don't you try forgetting who makes this or that and then investigate a bit before you start making assumptions based on rumours and reputations unless you have hard proof to back it up.

Example:

My PC isn't working, whatever shall I do...shall I

a: post on a technical forum asking if part x is causing a problem and I have heard that parts made by company b have a bad reputation without looking into it any further then that.

or do I

b: Strip the PC as much as possible and try to test each part individually in whatever way is possible THEN if I need further help go on a technical forum and ask for suggestions without automatically condemning a particular part without any proof to back up the fact that a particular part is causing the problem.



Besides if your so certain that it's your AMD cpu causing the problem then why are you asking us whats causing the problem and also if you've heard such bad things about AMD cpu's then why did you buy it in the first place?

Your nice new PC might be faster then my 286, but my 286 makes a better door stop :smile:
December 29, 2001 8:28:32 AM

now i understand why i have some english difficulties... :) 
i come from... just have a look to my profile

so we can't go to Intel nor AMD
safe! there is yet Apple :) 



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December 29, 2001 9:04:11 AM

that must be why!:p 
blame canada!

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December 29, 2001 9:11:07 AM

what are you talking about ???


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December 29, 2001 9:22:05 AM

it does? u should know him by now.
at least mr fugger comes out with some interesting stuff

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December 29, 2001 3:13:44 PM

see now you dont understand what im talking about..:) 

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December 29, 2001 3:36:53 PM

No, it's a ratio. 90% of the users here use AMD systems. 90% of the posts here are AMD related. The ratio of intel:amd problems on this forum is equal to the ratio fo intel:amd users on this forum. This does not mean that 100% of AMD users have problems, or even 90% of AMD users have problems, you really need to work on your basic math skills. This only means the that ratio of the intel:amd problems is equal to the ratio of intel:amd users, and that make perfect sense! Here is an example

I have 10 oranges and 90 apples
That's a ratio of 1:9 oranges to apples
Two oranges are taken while 18 apples disappear
That's a ratio of 1:9 also. You really can't conclude to anything with just those two ratios like the number of AMD users or Intel users who have problems.

AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor
December 29, 2001 3:40:35 PM

Our next lesson AMDMeltdown will be the alphabet!!! Do you still remember that alphabet song?

AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by AMD_Man on 12/29/01 12:41 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
December 29, 2001 9:00:16 PM

Lol, good lesson! Hope this will help some people here.

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December 30, 2001 6:31:29 AM

LOL LOL LOL


Good job amd_man.

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December 30, 2001 7:40:18 AM

i wonder what happened with gjsmythe and his original problem. :) 
December 30, 2001 11:49:17 AM

lol, I seriously doubt Meltdown knows the Alphabet! He seriously must be under 12 or something, or else, he dropped out of school when he was very young!

AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor
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