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<A HREF="http://www.theinquirer.net/12120122.htm" target="_new">http://www.theinquirer.net/12120122.htm</A>

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please, everyone... stop posting inquirer stories. It's not reputable.

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I wouldn't doubt it of both AMD & Intel both have chips for x86-64 AND IA64........it would seem common sense, AMD Takes info. off Intel for IA64, and Intel takes info off AMD for x86-64, egt the idea? =) works out best for the consumer.....

as far as Intel_Inside saying The Inquirer is not reputable......i do agree with as on the TABLOID/FLYER/Newsparer version...as far as the Inquirer Website for computer news, why do u say its not reputable, etc. ?

Do they spread viscous lies/rumours or something ? or you just dont like the way they express facts ?

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They tend to post alot of rumours, and rumours are fine, but people in this forum post them as if they are facts.

I am curious if a version of windows is being programed for x86-64... as one has been programed for the Itanium. Obviously they won't be compatible since the Itanium and the hammer will be completely different architectures but amd needs microsoft's support if they want to market their chip to the general public.



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Inquirer isnt a good source in my views. I think if i see it on 5 or 6 sites then yeah it could be true.

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They tend to post alot of rumours, and rumours are fine, but people in this forum post them as if they are facts.



If someone dosent know enough to realize that the inquirer posts rumors(which in my oppinion generally are trus since I have been reading it for nearly a year) then they deserve to be misled.

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If someone dosent know enough to realize that the inquirer posts rumors(which in my oppinion generally are trus since I have been reading it for nearly a year) then they deserve to be misled
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What were you implying?Am I not to trust Incuirer or ....err or what?
Just a simple question.
My mother tongue is not english so I often feel like an outsider in here.

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The inquirer posts rumors, they may or may not be true, one should know this when reading, if they do not realize that this is their own issue.


I personally think the inquirer and the register are right about 80% of the time, from my own experience reading them, others may disagree, but when someone posts a link to a story it should NEVER be assumed to be factual, especially on the internet. I also think this poster did not post it intending it to be taken as hard fact, as it is the inquirer after all, and even 80% is not good enough for me to straight away believe them.

However a few days ago they said dell was dropping the itanium, a comment which several intelites in this forum denied as fud....low and behold dell announced it officially today, then again, the inquirer has said some stuff which was so off base it wasnt even funny.



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well, the news does ave some sense!

The Itanium isnt doing well, the platform itself is too costly, slow and generates a lot of heat that vendors are having problems managing it. Add to it that the Itanium needs special compiler to generate favourable code for it which means all major applications have to be recompiled or rewritten to suit the architecture.

The x86-64 is a simple extension of the traditional x86 architecture which is completely self-contained as far as optimal coding is concerned and does not need people to make new compilers for new architecture and software vendors to rewrite the code.

As far as adaptability iod concerened the x86-64 is better of the two, but for raw performance a properly compiled Itanium code would be superior. What will suit the people right now? Thats the question and I guess its answered already.

If Intel takes up x86-64 it would be good for them as well as people that they will have some option in terms of hardware.

If its a rumour its okay. Nobody is expecting that anyway.

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i think the inquirer needs some page 3 girls!

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Inquirer isnt a good source in my views. I think if i see it on 5 or 6 sites then yeah it could be true.



That's rich, coming from Mr. "nVidia to buy AMD!!!"

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In this day of the internet where things in the marketplace are nothing short of cutthroat, people need to survive. The Inquirer and The Register do so by trying to serve up early news. Be it mostly rhumors and some factoids, but some of it is pretty good info. of course you gotta take it with a grain'o salt. But you can't always go YAY when the news suits you and shout out libel when it doesn't.

I think this story might hold some truth, because Itanium (or Itanic as we know it) doesn't seem to be doing too well so far. They might need a stepping stone, so the x86-64 experiments don't seem like a bad idea.

ps. matt its not intended towards you, but certain people in this forum who seem to cry wolf at anything they dislike. They know who they are. :wink:



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Well, Itanium is doing very well.
Thanks lemming crew for blowing smoke up people ass.

For those of you that have never seen one, and prob will not see one for the next year or so. STFU already, your spreading more crap than the inquirer can.

And reguarding that comment, slow and overheating. untrue, its more like wishfull thinking. If Itanium can shave years off a project and better the MIPS counterparts by 2:1 margin. how the [-peep-] can you call that slow?? let alone were stacking 512 CPU's in a single frame. That sure blows the inquirer's "Only 500 sold" theory. the heat,the heat oh no the heat.... Coming from a AMD lemming, that is like the pope telling a gay sexual catholic school boy joke.

You girls are better off talking about something you know first hand and not what you read on some tabloid.

Should we mention who dropped AMD recently??

Dell is consumer and small business oreinted, they dont have the clients to warrant Itanium sales like we do. makes me wonder why they even tried to sell the Itanium in the first place.

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It's actually pretty damn funny watching you get bent out of shape whenever you encounter some uncomfortable bit of news like this. Haven't you realized that by now?

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You know what I dont know who droped AMD recently so why dont you tell me?

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what are you in denial, a bunch of Co's kicked AMD to 'da curb.

Tiny, Gateway, Fujitsu(sorta) 1000's Vars, me.

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let alone were stacking 512 CPU's in a single frame. That sure blows the inquirer's "Only 500 sold" theory. the heat,the heat oh no the heat.... Coming from a AMD lemming, that is like the pope telling a gay sexual catholic school boy joke.
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So you can put 512 CPU's in a single frame(I'm impressed).How many frames did you need all and all?A Bazillion?
Your sales must be soaring!

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Hey, I come to learn and discuss cutting edge technology. I stay to laugh at Fugger's, Meltdown's and Intel's (among others) antics.

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Era sales are "soaring" with all the new contracts for 2002.

Bront, Thanks for noticing!

Thanks meltdown for the condensed list.

Kelledin, shurg... bent? was it the catholic school boy joke reference?

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so you havent acually built or sold any Itanum systems yet you just have comtracts?

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so you havent acually built or sold any Itanum systems yet you just have comtracts?
also i would not be suprised if the contracts did not include some sort of escape clause, so the systems are not acually sold yet but a company has said that somtime in 2002 they will buy a system from you. correct?

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