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I have narrowed down to two laptops now. I am looking for a gaming/college laptop. I made a post earlier about a macbook pro and you guys led me towards a different direction and I can see why. I do own a copy of windows 7. Here are the two laptops and my budget around it.

Sager NP8150 / Clevo P150HM: $1,327

- 3% Cash Discount, 8GB RAM Promotion & Price Match! Ask us about our Current Specials! We GUARANTEE we have the lowest price for the same configuration!
- 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Glare Type Screen
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- - 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
- -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- nVidia GeForce GTX 560M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11-
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 8,192MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)
- Standard Finish
- ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- ~ Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti DVDRW/CDRW Drive w/ Software (When selecting a Hard Drive in the Optical Bay, No Optical Drive is Included)
- No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- No Back Up Software
- None Standard--
- Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs
- No Xotic PC Gear

MSI GT683R-242: 1,499

I feel like since the Xotic laptop can come with out windows 7 I could get a better deal. Anyway how major are the differences between the two?

Thanks for the help!
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  1. 8150 is better.
    I'd recommend MSI GT780R if you're looking to get a MSI laptop.It's better than GT683 and offers a backlit keyboard too
  2. I like the Sager one better, if not just for the fact that the MSI notebook looks incredibly cheap (looks like plastic hinges and like no one bothered with case design) even though you're paying $1500.
  3. Sager laptop are also made of plastic
  4. dont go with the sager/clevo laptop. clevo laptops are terrible, the keyboards suck, the build quality sucks, they just suck so much.

    go with the msi
  5. Where did you read that ?
    The build quality of Sager laptops are excellent so are their keyboard.
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