Revenge of the Sith Review - Short Version

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GUSH!!!

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Presto wrote:
> GUSH!!!

You are gushing blood?

Why doesn't R2-D2 recognize Yoda if he knew him in the past and wasn't
mindwiped?

- Ron ^*^
 
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Werebat wrote:
> Presto wrote:
> > GUSH!!!
>
> You are gushing blood?
>
> Why doesn't R2-D2 recognize Yoda if he knew him in the past and
wasn't
> mindwiped?
>

Because R2 is cool and mystical like that.......
 
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Mere moments before death, Werebat hastily scrawled:
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>Presto wrote:
>> GUSH!!!
>
>You are gushing blood?
>
>Why doesn't R2-D2 recognize Yoda if he knew him in the past and wasn't
>mindwiped?

What makes you think he doesn't recognize him?



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Alien mind control rays made Werebat <ranpoirier@cox.net> write:
> Why doesn't R2-D2 recognize Yoda if he knew him in the past and wasn't
> mindwiped?

how do you know he doesn't recognize him?

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I remember the "Star Wars Movie Storybook" or somesuch, from the late
70s or early 80s, said Chewbacca was 200 years old.

Chewie never met Yoda in episodes IV-VI, so he didn't have the chance
to show recognition (or not).
 
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donbrinn@gmail.com wrote:
> I remember the "Star Wars Movie Storybook" or somesuch, from the late
> 70s or early 80s, said Chewbacca was 200 years old.

Ah, check. I'd have liked to see more Wookies in 4-6 though. :( And the
homeworld seemed off to me.
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Werebat wrote:
> Matt Frisch wrote:
>> Werebat wrote:
>>> Presto wrote:
>>>
>>>> GUSH!!!
>>>
>>> You are gushing blood?
>>>
>>> Why doesn't R2-D2 recognize Yoda if he knew him in the past and
wasn't
>>> mindwiped?
>>
>> How does 3P0 not make the connection with "The Maker" and Vader? Why
>> wouldn't he recognize Tatooine since that is where he was created
and spent
>> his first 10 years (WORKING ON THE SAME FARM LUKE BRINGS HIM TO)?
>
> Because he was mindwiped (they actually come out and say this in
Ep3).
>
> However R2 is NOT. This is why he remembers Obi-Wan as his old
master
> (and 3PO has no idea what he is talking about) in Ep4.
>
> However, in Ep5, when R2 first meets Yoda he zaps him with a
cattleprod.
> He doesn't appear to remember him at all.
>
> Since droids are force-dead, he could not have been seduced by the
dark
> side, as some wag suggested.

Being force-dead has nothing to do with being seduced by the dark side.
Anyone or anything can be seduced by either side. In Ep5, R2 shocks
Yoda, because Yoda's being a pain in the ass. It's that simple. R2
neither says nor does anything that could make you think he either
knows Yoda or not.
 
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Ed Chauvin IV wrote:
> Mere moments before death, Werebat hastily scrawled:
>
>>
>>Presto wrote:
>>
>>>GUSH!!!
>>
>>You are gushing blood?
>>
>>Why doesn't R2-D2 recognize Yoda if he knew him in the past and wasn't
>>mindwiped?
>
>
> What makes you think he doesn't recognize him?

Because he doesn't warn Luke that this is the incompetent, or else
malicious, bastard who CAUSED the fall of the republic, and the
corruption of his father?




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Sea Wasp <seaobviouswasp@sgeobviousinc.com> wrote in
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> Ed Chauvin IV wrote:
>> Mere moments before death, Werebat hastily scrawled:
>>
>>>
>>>Presto wrote:
>>>
>>>>GUSH!!!
>>>
>>>You are gushing blood?
>>>
>>>Why doesn't R2-D2 recognize Yoda if he knew him in the past and wasn't
>>>mindwiped?
>>
>>
>> What makes you think he doesn't recognize him?
>
> Because he doesn't warn Luke that this is the incompetent, or else
> malicious, bastard who CAUSED the fall of the republic, and the
> corruption of his father?
>
What makes you think R2D2 would think it a good idea to warn Luke? There's
really nothing to indicate which side the little guy is one, after all.
Perhaps R2 has also been seduced by the Dark Side.

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On Fri, 20 May 2005 09:46:54 -0400, Werebat <ranpoirier@cox.net> scribed
into the ether:

>
>
>Presto wrote:
>> GUSH!!!
>
>You are gushing blood?
>
>Why doesn't R2-D2 recognize Yoda if he knew him in the past and wasn't
>mindwiped?

How does 3P0 not make the connection with "The Maker" and Vader? Why
wouldn't he recognize Tatooine since that is where he was created and spent
his first 10 years (WORKING ON THE SAME FARM LUKE BRINGS HIM TO)?

Putting R2 and 3P0 in the prequels was among some of the stupidest things
that Lucas did, and given the overall shittiness of Eps 1&2, that's saying
a lot.
 
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"Matt Frisch" <matuse73@yahoo.spam.me.not.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 20 May 2005 09:46:54 -0400, Werebat <ranpoirier@cox.net> scribed
> into the ether:
>
> >
> >
> >Presto wrote:
> >> GUSH!!!
> >
> >You are gushing blood?
> >
> >Why doesn't R2-D2 recognize Yoda if he knew him in the past and wasn't
> >mindwiped?
>
> How does 3P0 not make the connection with "The Maker" and Vader? Why
> wouldn't he recognize Tatooine since that is where he was created and
spent
> his first 10 years (WORKING ON THE SAME FARM LUKE BRINGS HIM TO)?
>
> Putting R2 and 3P0 in the prequels was among some of the stupidest things
> that Lucas did, and given the overall shittiness of Eps 1&2, that's saying
> a lot.

because its star wars..... you mean you actually expected a coherent story
line without gaping holes from lucas?, silly silly silly
 
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Matt Frisch wrote:
> On Fri, 20 May 2005 09:46:54 -0400, Werebat <ranpoirier@cox.net> scribed
> into the ether:
>
>
>>
>>Presto wrote:
>>
>>>GUSH!!!
>>
>>You are gushing blood?
>>
>>Why doesn't R2-D2 recognize Yoda if he knew him in the past and wasn't
>>mindwiped?
>
>
> How does 3P0 not make the connection with "The Maker" and Vader? Why
> wouldn't he recognize Tatooine since that is where he was created and spent
> his first 10 years (WORKING ON THE SAME FARM LUKE BRINGS HIM TO)?

Because he was mindwiped (they actually come out and say this in Ep3).

However R2 is NOT. This is why he remembers Obi-Wan as his old master
(and 3PO has no idea what he is talking about) in Ep4.

However, in Ep5, when R2 first meets Yoda he zaps him with a cattleprod.
He doesn't appear to remember him at all.

Since droids are force-dead, he could not have been seduced by the dark
side, as some wag suggested.

- Ron ^*^
 
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Matt Frisch <matuse73@yahoo.spam.me.not.com> wrote:
>How does 3P0 not make the connection with "The Maker" and Vader? Why
>wouldn't he recognize Tatooine since that is where he was created and spent
>his first 10 years (WORKING ON THE SAME FARM LUKE BRINGS HIM TO)?

Did you miss Senator Bail Organa ordering C3PO's mind-wiped at
the end when he gave the droids to Wedge Antilles' father?

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cjdc@nwlxgen02.jf.intel.com (Chris Christian) wrote in
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> Matt Frisch <matuse73@yahoo.spam.me.not.com> wrote:
>>How does 3P0 not make the connection with "The Maker" and Vader? Why
>>wouldn't he recognize Tatooine since that is where he was created and
>>spent his first 10 years (WORKING ON THE SAME FARM LUKE BRINGS HIM
>>TO)?
>
> Did you miss Senator Bail Organa ordering C3PO's mind-wiped at
> the end when he gave the droids to Wedge Antilles' father?
>
Besides, it would be trivial for Lucas to issue yet another revision of the
original movies to account for it.

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No 33 Secretary wrote:
> Besides, it would be trivial for Lucas to issue yet another revision of the
> original movies to account for it.

Spoiler about the Wookies, probably
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The use of Chewie as a name for the Wookie who escorted him to the escape pod.
Seems ... gratuitious? Do Wookies live that long? Did he show any recognition to
Yoda or that he met a Jedi before in his lifetime?
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On Fri, 20 May 2005 19:27:31 GMT, Matt Frisch
<matuse73@yahoo.spam.me.not.com> scribed into the ether:

>On Fri, 20 May 2005 09:46:54 -0400, Werebat <ranpoirier@cox.net> scribed
>into the ether:
>
>>
>>
>>Presto wrote:
>>> GUSH!!!
>>
>>You are gushing blood?
>>
>>Why doesn't R2-D2 recognize Yoda if he knew him in the past and wasn't
>>mindwiped?
>
>How does 3P0 not make the connection with "The Maker" and Vader? Why
>wouldn't he recognize Tatooine since that is where he was created and spent
>his first 10 years (WORKING ON THE SAME FARM LUKE BRINGS HIM TO)?
>
>Putting R2 and 3P0 in the prequels was among some of the stupidest things
>that Lucas did, and given the overall shittiness of Eps 1&2, that's saying
>a lot.

Ok, so I saw the movie today, and that explains why 3P0 doesn't remember
anything....

But I stand by my second paragraph!
 
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On Fri, 20 May 2005 14:27:44 -0700, ~consul
<consul@INVALIDdolphins-cove.com> scribed into the ether:

>No 33 Secretary wrote:
>> Besides, it would be trivial for Lucas to issue yet another revision of the
>> original movies to account for it.
>
>Spoiler about the Wookies, probably
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>The use of Chewie as a name for the Wookie who escorted him to the escape pod.
>Seems ... gratuitious? Do Wookies live that long?

Lucas seems to have decided to contract the timeline between Eps 3 and 4 by
a lot more than I expected. It seemed as though a space of 40ish years had
gone past, but it looks to be a lot closer to 20. That's not all *that*
long, but I do agree that the Chewbacca reference seemed exceedingly
gratuitous.

> Did he show any recognition to
>Yoda or that he met a Jedi before in his lifetime?

Yoda is only met by Luke, R2, and Obi-Wan in Eps 5-6.
 
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On Fri, 20 May 2005 16:13:23 -0700, ~consul
<consul@INVALIDdolphins-cove.com> scribed into the ether:

>donbrinn@gmail.com wrote:
>> I remember the "Star Wars Movie Storybook" or somesuch, from the late
>> 70s or early 80s, said Chewbacca was 200 years old.
>
>Ah, check. I'd have liked to see more Wookies in 4-6 though. :( And the
>homeworld seemed off to me.

Very off. Time to fire up KOTOR...that's star wars done right.
 
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On Sat, 21 May 2005 02:07:44 GMT, Matt Frisch
<matuse73@yahoo.spam.me.not.com> scribed into the ether:

>On Fri, 20 May 2005 14:27:44 -0700, ~consul
><consul@INVALIDdolphins-cove.com> scribed into the ether:
>
>>No 33 Secretary wrote:
>>> Besides, it would be trivial for Lucas to issue yet another revision of the
>>> original movies to account for it.
>>
>>Spoiler about the Wookies, probably
>>616
>>1
>>161661
>>6161
>>16
>>1616611
>>6116
>>6
>>1661
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>>161616
>>16
>>6116
>>6116
>>616116
>>1661
>>6116
>>16
>>161616
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>>The use of Chewie as a name for the Wookie who escorted him to the escape pod.
>>Seems ... gratuitious? Do Wookies live that long?
>
>Lucas seems to have decided to contract the timeline between Eps 3 and 4 by
>a lot more than I expected. It seemed as though a space of 40ish years had
>gone past, but it looks to be a lot closer to 20. That's not all *that*
>long, but I do agree that the Chewbacca reference seemed exceedingly
>gratuitous.

And oh yea...wtf is up with the Death Star apparently taking more than 20
years to actually build? It looks about 10% done at the end of the movie,
but it doesn't get finished until 1/3rd of the way through Ep 4...huh?

No wonder Vader needs to motivate those slackers in Ep 6, they can't build
anything in a timely way.
 
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> And oh yea...wtf is vp with the Death Star apparently taking more than 20
> years to actvally bvild?

Union labor. Government contracts.

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Mere moments before death, Sea Wasp hastily scrawled:
>Ed Chauvin IV wrote:
>> Mere moments before death, Werebat hastily scrawled:
>>
>>>
>>>Presto wrote:
>>>
>>>>GUSH!!!
>>>
>>>You are gushing blood?
>>>
>>>Why doesn't R2-D2 recognize Yoda if he knew him in the past and wasn't
>>>mindwiped?
>>
>>
>> What makes you think he doesn't recognize him?
>
>Because he doesn't warn Luke that this is the incompetent, or else
>malicious, bastard who CAUSED the fall of the republic, and the
>corruption of his father?

You must have watched a different version of The Empire Strikes Back,
because I distinctly recall R2 being very upset when he encountered
Yoda.



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Mere moments before death, Matt Frisch hastily scrawled:
>On Fri, 20 May 2005 09:46:54 -0400, Werebat <ranpoirier@cox.net> scribed
>into the ether:
>
>>
>>
>>Presto wrote:
>>> GUSH!!!
>>
>>You are gushing blood?
>>
>>Why doesn't R2-D2 recognize Yoda if he knew him in the past and wasn't
>>mindwiped?
>
>How does 3P0 not make the connection with "The Maker" and Vader? Why
>wouldn't he recognize Tatooine since that is where he was created and spent
>his first 10 years (WORKING ON THE SAME FARM LUKE BRINGS HIM TO)?

Because 3P0 **WAS** mindwiped. How is he supposed to remember?

>Putting R2 and 3P0 in the prequels was among some of the stupidest things
>that Lucas did, and given the overall shittiness of Eps 1&2, that's saying
>a lot.

Oh, I take it you haven't /seen/ RotS yet?



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Mere moments before death, ~consul hastily scrawled:
>No 33 Secretary wrote:
>> Besides, it would be trivial for Lucas to issue yet another revision of the
>> original movies to account for it.
>
>
>The use of Chewie as a name for the Wookie who escorted him to the escape pod.
>Seems ... gratuitious? Do Wookies live that long?

Uh, it's only 20 years.

>Did he show any recognition to
>Yoda or that he met a Jedi before in his lifetime?

I don't recall Chewbacca going to Degobah.



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modifier G @ 11.

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Mere moments before death, Matt Frisch hastily scrawled:
>
>And oh yea...wtf is up with the Death Star apparently taking more than 20
>years to actually build? It looks about 10% done at the end of the movie,
>but it doesn't get finished until 1/3rd of the way through Ep 4...huh?

It's a government job and the early completion bonus was probably not
good enough to pay for the necessary overtime.



Ed Chauvin IV

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modifier G @ 11.

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