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I am planning on building a system for multitrack digital audio recording/sequencing/processing. I was curious whether I should put together a system based on intel hardware or amd hardware. I have heard that some amd motherboards are unstable. I need my system to be completely stable, I do not plan on overclocking it. I would also prefer if the system were quiet, since I will be working with music and recording I would not like to hear roaring fans continuously. Price is a factor, but I am willing to spend more for higher quality parts. Anyone built any systems for this specific task? Any suggestions on a motherboard or cpu?

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Get a athlon xp 1600 with the stock retail heatsink fan.


Iwill xp333 is a good stable fast mobo for amd.

This system will be fast/stable/and quiet.

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Reply to Matisaro

Get an intel system for music - it supports floating point which is pretty essential for music system.

Amd will do it fine - Just Intel will be better in this case.

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Umm, techie, amd has a better floating point unit than intel, what was the point of your post?

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Reply to Matisaro

Actually Intel is better for support music based files.

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WTF ? "music based files"... *thinking*.. is that like FM radio broadcast with a special modem to receive warez over radio frequencies ? Come to think of it..not eventhat bad an idea, is it ? though probably mighty slow..

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Reply to Anonymous

Go with what Matisaro said....but becasue your into the Digital Music seen, you might want to get a lot of RAM, like 512MB+, even 1024MB would be good for you, set with Windows XP and your set......

AMD Athlon XP 1600+ (or any other speed you want, 1700+, 1800+, 1900+, 2000+) Processor
IWill XP333 DDR Motherbaord
1024MB of C2 DDR Ram
100GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive
Some basic video card, as all you really need is good 2D Functionality, UNLESS you plan on playign some 3D Games once in awhile, in that case I'd recommend goign with a GeForce 2 GTS 64MB.
For the Soudn Card i don't know what you have in mind, but I've heard good things about the Turtle Beach Studio Card....anyone else have any ideas ????
and than get whatever you want, like a 24x10x40 CD-RW Drive......etc. etc.

Post back if you need more info.

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Reply to MeTaLrOcKeR

Techie, what kind of "music based files" are you talking about? MP3 encoding? Intel is better at that because it is purely integer work (compression), so the higher bandwidth on the P4 puts it ahead.

As for music recording/editing, that is also mostly integer work, and depends mainly on the other equipment, not the CPU.

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Reply to FatBurger

Burger that was nearly exactly what I was going to say when I got his reply in my email, thanks for being so prompt.



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Reply to Matisaro

Techie, you said intel was better for music based files, because of its stronger fpu, everyone knows the athlon's fpu kicks the living crap out of the p4's fpu. So again, I ask, what were you talking about in your above post.

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Reply to Matisaro

the Intel platform is best suited for music whether it's live or studio, Intel systems don't need a lot of tweaking.

Intel chipset handle plug n play better than Amd based chipsets like Via.

these chipsets from VIA are <b>retarded</b> and always will lose settings when you change cards.

<b>major glitches</b> like rebooting at random times(not cool when recording a band) and it's worst if you're recording some mean a$$ tracks and all of a sudden there's noise or glitches on play back.(VIA)

About quietness:

AMD based systems are <b>loud as hell</b> and are basically <b>self immolating</b> while you use them, you'll need 5+ fans to cool an AMD based system, can ppl think while hearing a small jet airplane in a studio? nope.

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Reply to AmdMELTDOWN

Although Meltdown is way off on AMD systems, I'd tend to agree that an Intel system would be better. Particularly the new P4s (Northwood).

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Reply to FatBurger

I was thinking of getting an intel system when the northwood came out, but like I said price would be a factor. If a stable amd athlon XP system were possible I would get that. As for the soundcard I will probbaly be using a pro soundcard such as the midiman delta.

Reply to Anonymous

Stable XP systems are definitely possible, so that solves your stability questions. Lower clocked Northwoods are coming out, so that solves your cost questions.

Let me know if I can be of any less help :lol:

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Reply to FatBurger

Look at the IWill XP333! It's the 440BX mobo of AXP processors! The most stable, the most feature rich (well,at least one of the most), the most future-proof and the most overclocking-friends mobo to exist for the Athlon platform. It's unlike anything you've ever seen for the Athlon. It natively supports the 333MHz and 400MHz so your are set for the future! It's not based on a VIA chip but rather the ALi Magik1 (revision C), which is considered the most stable chipset for any AMD system.

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Reply to AMD_Man

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Techie, you said intel was better for music based files, because of its stronger fpu, everyone knows the athlon's fpu kicks the living crap out of the p4's fpu. So again, I ask, what were you talking about in your above post.


When he posted about a music system - I presumed he would be using external exquipment- ie mixer desk etc. This is what I'm doing - using my Mixer to reocrd tracks, samples and mixes to my comp. for this kinda stuff the intel setup is better.

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Intel is better at that because it is purely integer work (compression), so the higher bandwidth on the P4 puts it ahead.



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Reply to Anonymous

Melty what are you on about - that has to be the biggest load of drivvle eva.

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VIA are retarded


So are you.

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AMD based systems are loud as hell


Mines very quiet.

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you'll need 5+ fans to cool an AMD based system


Mine has two.

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can ppl think while hearing a small jet airplane in a studio?


You have no idea about recording. You don't use mics - You use direct connections.

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Reply to Anonymous

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You have no idea about recording. You don't use mics - You use direct connections.



I can't believe you just said that. Since when do you record vocals, piano, violin, etc. trough a direct connection?

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Reply to FatBurger

in the sound studios i've seen there is a sound proof barrier between the mics and the mixer

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Reply to vader1882

Me too, but you don't record everything direct, which is what he said.

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Reply to FatBurger

"I can't believe you just said that. Since when do you record vocals, piano, violin, etc. trough a direct connection?"

you have to forgive techie2001, he's from the UK and over there they play eurotrash electronic music 24/7 they have arrogant dj's who think they are god's gift. 24/7 of moronic 4/4 primal beats will surely make you as dull as tech2001, so please forgive his naiveness and lack of knowledge.

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Reply to AmdMELTDOWN

>in the sound studios i've seen there is a sound proof barrier between the mics and the mixer

in a typical home studio you do have that luxury, you're stuck with either a bathroom or closet.

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