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Anonymous
May 26, 2005 12:53:34 AM

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Are there any rules in splatbooks for wooden armour? ISTR that some
Native Americans used a sort of bark plywood, and I've seen it in at
least one other RPG (though I can't remember which).

Now clearly it's not exactly going to match a masterwork breastplate,
but wooden armour has several advantages:
* Druids can wear it
* It floats, more or less
* It doesn't rust
* Low-tech societies can make it
* Darkwood

The Ironwood spell states that one can make wooden items that become
as good as steel, but says nothing about what happens if the spell
ends or is dispelled.


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Anonymous
May 26, 2005 12:53:35 AM

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Jim Davies wrote:

>Are there any rules in splatbooks for wooden armour? ISTR that some
>Native Americans used a sort of bark plywood, and I've seen it in at
>least one other RPG (though I can't remember which).
>
>Now clearly it's not exactly going to match a masterwork breastplate,
>but wooden armour has several advantages:
>* Druids can wear it
>* It floats, more or less
>* It doesn't rust
>* Low-tech societies can make it
>* Darkwood
>
>The Ironwood spell states that one can make wooden items that become
>as good as steel, but says nothing about what happens if the spell
>ends or is dispelled.
>
>
>--
>Jim or Sarah Davies, but probably Jim
>
>D&D and Star Fleet Battles stuff on http://www.aaargh.org
>
>
Have you looked at From Stone to Steel? I'd be surprised if that
book didn't cover this.

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Anonymous
May 26, 2005 3:20:53 AM

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Jim Davies <jim@aaargh.NoBleedinSpam.org> writes
>Are there any rules in splatbooks for wooden armour? ISTR that some
>Native Americans used a sort of bark plywood, and I've seen it in at
>least one other RPG (though I can't remember which).

Arms & Equipment Guide has bark, wicker, and wood armour:

Bark: Light, 5gp, +2 AC, +5 MxDex, -2 ACP, 15% ASF, 15lb
Wicker: Light, 1gp, +1 AC, +5 MxDex, +0 ACP, 10% ASF, 5lb
Wood: Light, 15gp, +3 AC, +4 MxDex, -3 ACP, 15% ASF, 15lb

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Anonymous
May 27, 2005 4:34:11 AM

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Anyone born on the two American continents are Native Americans. If you
are into PCism, the correct term is Pre-European American.

Jim Davies wrote:
> Are there any rules in splatbooks for wooden armour? ISTR that some
> Native Americans used a sort of bark plywood, and I've seen it in at
> least one other RPG (though I can't remember which).
>
> Now clearly it's not exactly going to match a masterwork breastplate,
> but wooden armour has several advantages:
> * Druids can wear it
> * It floats, more or less
> * It doesn't rust
> * Low-tech societies can make it
> * Darkwood
>
> The Ironwood spell states that one can make wooden items that become
> as good as steel, but says nothing about what happens if the spell
> ends or is dispelled.
>
>
> --
> Jim or Sarah Davies, but probably Jim
>
> D&D and Star Fleet Battles stuff on http://www.aaargh.org
Anonymous
May 27, 2005 4:56:07 AM

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Behold! for Tetsubo <tetsubo@comcast.net> spake unto the multitude
thus:

>Jim Davies wrote:
>
>>Are there any rules in splatbooks for wooden armour? ISTR that some
>>Native Americans used a sort of bark plywood, and I've seen it in at
>>least one other RPG (though I can't remember which).
>>
snip

> Have you looked at From Stone to Steel? I'd be surprised if that
>book didn't cover this.

Never heard of it. But now that I have, I may check it out.


--
Jim or Sarah Davies, but probably Jim

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Anonymous
May 27, 2005 4:56:09 AM

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Behold! for Ian R Malcomson <ian@domicus.demon.co.uk> spake unto the
multitude thus:

>Jim Davies <jim@aaargh.NoBleedinSpam.org> writes
>>Are there any rules in splatbooks for wooden armour? ISTR that some
>>Native Americans used a sort of bark plywood, and I've seen it in at
>>least one other RPG (though I can't remember which).
>
>Arms & Equipment Guide has bark, wicker, and wood armour:
>
>Bark: Light, 5gp, +2 AC, +5 MxDex, -2 ACP, 15% ASF, 15lb
>Wicker: Light, 1gp, +1 AC, +5 MxDex, +0 ACP, 10% ASF, 5lb
>Wood: Light, 15gp, +3 AC, +4 MxDex, -3 ACP, 15% ASF, 15lb

Bingo. Thanks. I think I'll knock up some heavier versions too.


--
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D&D and Star Fleet Battles stuff on http://www.aaargh.org
Anonymous
May 27, 2005 4:56:10 AM

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Jim Davies <jim@aaargh.NoBleedinSpam.org> wrote:
>>Arms & Equipment Guide has bark, wicker, and wood armour:
>>
>>Bark: Light, 5gp, +2 AC, +5 MxDex, -2 ACP, 15% ASF, 15lb
>>Wicker: Light, 1gp, +1 AC, +5 MxDex, +0 ACP, 10% ASF, 5lb
>>Wood: Light, 15gp, +3 AC, +4 MxDex, -3 ACP, 15% ASF, 15lb
>
>Bingo. Thanks. I think I'll knock up some heavier versions too.

Don't forget Darkwood (DMG, creating magic items, special materials)...

Donald
Anonymous
May 27, 2005 7:41:11 AM

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"keifer113@gmail.com" <keifer113@gmail.com> wrote:
] Anyone born on the two American continents are Native Americans. If you
] are into PCism, the correct term is Pre-European American.

I doubt my Cherokee ancestors would agree with such nonsense, and
neither do I.

The facts contradict your claim:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&oi=defmore&q=def...

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Anonymous
May 27, 2005 10:19:15 PM

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"Jim Davies" <jim@aaargh.NoBleedinSpam.org> wrote in message
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> Are there any rules in splatbooks for wooden armour? ISTR that some
> Native Americans used a sort of bark plywood, and I've seen it in at
> least one other RPG (though I can't remember which).
>
> Now clearly it's not exactly going to match a masterwork breastplate,
> but wooden armour has several advantages:
> * Druids can wear it
> * It floats, more or less
> * It doesn't rust
> * Low-tech societies can make it
> * Darkwood
>
> The Ironwood spell states that one can make wooden items that become
> as good as steel, but says nothing about what happens if the spell
> ends or is dispelled.

The spell states that the material component for Ironwood is the wood you
cast the spell upon. By my interpretation of material components, that
means that once the spell expires, the wood is destroyed.
Anonymous
May 28, 2005 3:29:21 PM

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Jim Davies wrote:
> Are there any rules in splatbooks for wooden armour? ISTR that some
> Native Americans used a sort of bark plywood, and I've seen it in at
> least one other RPG (though I can't remember which).
>
> Now clearly it's not exactly going to match a masterwork breastplate,
> but wooden armour has several advantages:
> * Druids can wear it
> * It floats, more or less
> * It doesn't rust
> * Low-tech societies can make it
> * Darkwood
>
> The Ironwood spell states that one can make wooden items that become
> as good as steel, but says nothing about what happens if the spell
> ends or is dispelled.

You could also consider Darkleaf armour from the Eberron Campaign Setting.
It's a combinations of specially cured and carved pieces of darkwood,
supplemented by alchemically treated leaves from the darkwood tree.

It can be used to make any medium or heavy armour normally made of metal,
most commonly breastplate or banded mail, and reduces the armour's
encumbrance category by one, like mithral. Unless you've got exceptionally
high DEX, darkleaf breastplate is a more cost-effective alternative to
mithral shirt once you start enhancing it past +1, and it can be worn by
druids.

--
Mark.
Anonymous
May 29, 2005 12:21:00 PM

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"Obi Wan Prestobi" <donotuse@thisaddress.no> wrote in message
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> "Jim Davies" <jim@aaargh.NoBleedinSpam.org> wrote in message
> news:tak991tn9hgc0onnq00n2mnrg48pqassn1@4ax.com...

> The spell states that the material component for Ironwood is the wood you
> cast the spell upon. By my interpretation of material components, that
> means that once the spell expires, the wood is destroyed.
>
>

In that case, there are a lot a cleric spells involving the destruction of
the clerics holy symbol...


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Anonymous
May 29, 2005 11:34:15 PM

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exclaimed:

>
> "Obi Wan Prestobi" <donotuse@thisaddress.no> wrote in message
> news:D wJle.27862$tt5.8577@edtnps90...
>> "Jim Davies" <jim@aaargh.NoBleedinSpam.org> wrote in message
>> news:tak991tn9hgc0onnq00n2mnrg48pqassn1@4ax.com...
>
>> The spell states that the material component for Ironwood is the wood
>> you cast the spell upon. By my interpretation of material
>> components, that means that once the spell expires, the wood is
>> destroyed.
>>
>>
>
> In that case, there are a lot a cleric spells involving the
> destruction of the clerics holy symbol...
>
>

Holy symbols are foci which are not destroyed. That's the main difference
between a focus and a material component.

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Anonymous
May 30, 2005 3:10:24 PM

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On Wed, 25 May 2005 20:53:34 +0100, Jim Davies
<jim@aaargh.NoBleedinSpam.org> wrote:
>Now clearly it's not exactly going to match a masterwork breastplate,
>but wooden armour has several advantages:
>* Druids can wear it
>* It floats, more or less
>* It doesn't rust
>* Low-tech societies can make it
>* Darkwood

* No need to spring for a coffin
* Can be recycled into firewood/torches

Regards
Dillon
Anonymous
May 31, 2005 9:48:50 PM

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Obi Wan Prestobi wrote:
> "Jim Davies" <jim@aaargh.NoBleedinSpam.org> wrote in message

> > The Ironwood spell states that one can make wooden items that become
> > as good as steel, but says nothing about what happens if the spell
> > ends or is dispelled.
>
> The spell states that the material component for Ironwood is the wood you
> cast the spell upon. By my interpretation of material components, that
> means that once the spell expires, the wood is destroyed.

Wouldn't that actually mean it was destroyed when the spell is cast?

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