FINALLY DITCHING 845 W/ SDRAM

[pr497]

the time has come to loose sdram an get ddr333 ram.
i just received most of my computer stuff.
the only thing i have to wait for is my one stick of 256 mb pc2700 ram (stupid ups ground).
anyways...as some of you may already know...ive been using my 1.7 P4 w/ sdram for some time now (about 4 months....it seemed longer than that to me). this is my current system:

P4 1.7 (478)
asus P4B motherboard
256 mb pc133 (kingston)
60 gig maxtor 7200rpm
R8500 (retail)
sb live! 5.1 dolbly digital
realtek NIC
win xp pro.
DVD drive....burner blah blah blah...

my new system:

2.0A P4 (northwood)
asus P4S333 motherboard
256 mb pc2700 (OCZ...newegg didnt have kingmax in stock)
the rest of my system hardware will be the same.

anyways...i was just wondering how much of an improvement i would get w/ this setup.
im getting a horribly low 6473 in 3dmark2k1 and a really sad 7003 in 3dmark2k.
im getting low to mid 40's in UT (thats pretty sad) and around 150 to 170 fps in quake.
i just wanted to let you guys know.
btw...if anyone wanted to know why i didnt get an amd system instead...
i was thinking of getting an AXP 2000+ w/ an nForce board until about last week...when i installed a new HSF on my P4.
long story short...i didnt check to see if the heatsink made contact w/ the cpu (which it didnt) and i accidently ran my own test of <A HREF="http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q3/010917/index.html" target="_new">Tom's Hardware: Hot Spot - How Modern Processors Cope With Heat Emergencies </A>
anyways...my P4 survived and i thought to myself..if this was an amd cpu (not athlon xp because i bought my P4 before AXP came out with its thermal diode protection blah blah...)...i would have have a char broiled cpu.
after that...i decided to get a P4 just for safety reasons...and besides...the northwood has better overclocking potential than an AXP (i already know....clock for clock....AXP is faster the the P4 and is cheaper and is the smarter choice etc.)

just for the record....if i have been more convinced of AXP's thermal protection...i would have had a sticker on my case that said: "Powered by AMD." (w/, obviously, an AXP pwering it).


<A HREF="http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2096468" target="_new">P4 + SDRAM</A> = <b>BAD</b>

 

[AMD_Man]

With that 2GHz Northy, retail Radeon 8500 and 333MHz DDR RAM, expect your fps to improve by 3X in Unreal Tournament, by ~10-20fps in Quake III, and by 1500-2000 3DMark2001 points.

AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor

 

[IIB]

I have a friend who has:
Athlon XP 1800 + Radeon 8500
and he gets close to 8000 at 3Dmark2001
I think you should get around the same...

 

[lamer_gamer]

Yep, P4+SDRAM=Bad!
It's gotta feel good getting out of that!

Alcohol- the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems. -Homer Simpson

 

[peteb]

Your choice fully - to me, honestly I wouldn't have gone from 1.7 Willy to 2.0A Northwood. Well, maybe I would have. If you are going to overclock it seriously then fair enough, certainly I'd say it is not worth it at stock.

Hope your new system works out to be everything you want it to be!

-* <font color=red> !! S O L D !! </font color=red> *-
To the gentleman in the pink Tutu

 

[tlaughrey]

My AXP 1900+ and GeForce 3 Ti 500 gets 8847 on 3DMark2K1. Just thought I'd tease you with that little tidbit of info ... good luck, man.

<i>I made you look. But I can't make you see.</i>

 

[pr497]

i wasnt planning on upgrading my 1.7...my friend wanted to buy it off me and he wanted my old hardware with it(motherboard and ram)...so i gave the 1.7 P4 to him for $150...motherboard for $100 and ram for $50.
i was looking to buy the not so existant 1.8 northwood...but i couldnt find any so i just bought the 2A northwood.
btw...before i actually sold my hardware to him...i warned him that a P4 paired up w/ sdram isnt a very good idea (performance wise)...but he didnt care because he doesnt play computer games anyways...he's just going to use it for word processing, e-mail, and surfing the net. this was a pretty big upgrade for him because he had an amd k-5 333 (it took 10 mins to boot win 98 to the desktop!!! ...i actually timed it)
so i didnt feel too bad about selling him the slow combination.

<A HREF="http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2096468" target="_new">P4 + SDRAM</A> = <b>BAD</b>

 

[FUGGER]

Dont make the SiS645 mistake. Get the P4B266 instead.

Ive worked with both, P4B266 is a far better choice w/ i845D chipset.

I also believe the currect 1.7Ghz socket 478 is a backfill 2.0 based upon some <A HREF="http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2535438" target="_new">super sick overclocking</A> being done with them. 1100Hmz overclock owns hardcore.

 

[pr497]

from all the reviews ive read...the P4S333 is a pretty good board. and besides...im not that big of an overclocker anyways...ill probably overclock the processor by about a couple of hundred mhz.
reference:
<A HREF="http://www.tweaktown.com/document.php?dType=review&dId=156" target="_new">http://www.tweaktown.com/document.php?dType=review&dId=156</A>
<A HREF="http://www.gamepc.com/reviews/hardware_review.asp?review=p4s333&page=1&mscssid=&tp=" target="_new">http://www.gamepc.com/reviews/hardware_review.asp?review=p4s333&page=1&mscssid=&tp=</A>
<A HREF="http://www.xbitlabs.com/mainboards/sis645-boards/" target="_new">http://www.xbitlabs.com/mainboards/sis645-boards/</A>

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