P3 1.4 w/512kb?

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hey-
does anyone know any vendors selling this chip? pricewatch doesn't have anything for it listed. or did intel even release this in decent quanities? thanks.

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nm. i see that googlegear has em. dunno if i'd want to purchase from them though.

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in spite of googlegear having a less than stellar resellerrating score I just bought my 2.0a nw from them .. it shipped fast and I didn't have any problems with them

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Heh, becuase not everyone here thinks in dollars
from http://www.sww.nl

Intel BX80526C1000256E PentiumIII 1000/133(256)FCPGA € 200
Intel BX80530C1133256 PentiumIII 1133/133(256)FCPGA € 239
Intel BX80530C1133512 Pentium III 1133/133(512)FCPGA € 280
Intel BX80530C1200256 Pentium III 1200/133(256)FCPGA € 287
Intel BX80530C1266512 Pentium III 1266/133(512)FCPGA € 343
Intel BX80530C1400512 Pentium III 1400/133(512)FCPGA € 509

Nice to see the 1266 is now much cheaper than it used to be, soon be time to fill up that 2nd socket :)
 

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i thought PIII's only went up to 1.2 ghz?
is there such thing as a 1.4 PIII?
i saw this add in a pennysaver magazine selling a 1.6 ghz PIII system for $700...this has to be false advertising...unless they overclocked that PIII...

:mad: <A HREF="http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2096468" target="_new">P4 + SDRAM</A> = <b>BAD</b> :mad:
 

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weird, i found from pricewatch, the p3 1.13ghz w/512kb is actually more expensive than the 1.26ghz 512kb. i was looking at pairing a couple of the pIII-S chips with iwill's dvd266u-rn. hey and it even has usb w/out an addon card :lol: !

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yes there is a p3 1.4ghz, it's one of the server chips (w/512kb). i found a couple places that sell them and intel has info on them in the server/processor section on their site. i do believe the 1.2 chips can reach 1.6

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There was back a few weeks, a Hard News about a P3 1.4GHZ. I'd really be glad to see some benchs and see how it finally goes against a P4 1.4GHZ! Then we can see how much did Intel degrade their P4s! IMO the Tualatins have a power of their own and if they had that damn extra bandwidth of say, 266MHZ, it would be helpful.

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$509 bucks for 1.4Ghz! wow mega steep price
The prices given are in Euros.

Prices in USD$:

Intel BX80526C1000256E PentiumIII 1000/133(256)FCPGA $ 173
Intel BX80530C1133256 PentiumIII 1133/133(256)FCPGA $ 206
Intel BX80530C1133512 Pentium III 1133/133(512)FCPGA $ 241
Intel BX80530C1200256 Pentium III 1200/133(256)FCPGA $ 248
Intel BX80530C1266512 Pentium III 1266/133(512)FCPGA $ 296
Intel BX80530C1400512 Pentium III 1400/133(512)FCPGA $ 439

In Canadian Dollars:

Intel BX80526C1000256E PentiumIII 1000/133(256)FCPGA $ 275
Intel BX80530C1133256 PentiumIII 1133/133(256)FCPGA $ 328
Intel BX80530C1133512 Pentium III 1133/133(512)FCPGA $ 384
Intel BX80530C1200256 Pentium III 1200/133(256)FCPGA $ 394
Intel BX80530C1266512 Pentium III 1266/133(512)FCPGA $ 471
Intel BX80530C1400512 Pentium III 1400/133(512)FCPGA $ 698

GBP £:

Intel BX80526C1000256E PentiumIII 1000/133(256)FCPGA £ 122
Intel BX80530C1133256 PentiumIII 1133/133(256)FCPGA £ 146
Intel BX80530C1133512 Pentium III 1133/133(512)FCPGA £ 171
Intel BX80530C1200256 Pentium III 1200/133(256)FCPGA £ 175
Intel BX80530C1266512 Pentium III 1266/133(512)FCPGA £ 209
Intel BX80530C1400512 Pentium III 1400/133(512)FCPGA £ 310

I also found <A HREF="http://ftp://download.intel.com/design/PentiumIII/specupdt/24445336.pdf" target="_new">this</A> after a bit of browsing. It had reference to a 1.4 Tully. Its a pdf file and its about 950K.

I noticed right at the end of the document the following:

"Intel is changing the Vcc core transient spec for FC-PGA processors running at frequencies of 933MHz and above. The spec is changing from -130mV to -110mV. SECC2 processors are not impacted by this change since they already meet the -110mV requirement."

Cooler CPUs?

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yes, i read a review of a dual tualatin mobo (1.26's @ 1.5) and the guy said he uses that setup at his home, and does not use any hsf! said he's only got one intake fan in the case and they still never get over 110f under full load. googlegear.com has the 1.4 for $360, cheapest i've seen it.

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Yet another reason to why the P4 was rushed and costs a lot. Hiding the P3's potential that wasn't yet fully squeezed is nothing but crap from Intel.

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no doubt. could you image the tually (512kb) at p4 speeds. i think amd would be in real trouble.

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AMD can always be in trouble but they are not that commercial so they can't lose against Intel winning, think about it. Besides Tuallies at such speeds will cost over 600$ which is nothing to what AXPs give back. Still the Tualatin proves yet another flaw with Intel's strategies and failed providing for us enthusiasts.

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yes, i'm sure the tualatins would have the price tags the top nw's do. but at least then, i think, with the performance of the tuallys the price could be justifiable.

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Oh well if you meant that then I do agree on some extent. If that was a performance and price rating, given Intel's quality CPUs then indeed the price would make more sense. Then comes the price drops so it would be a much more serious and healthy competition indeed!
It would've also helped make AMD hurry in their next CPUs, since now they are just working slowly without Intel's threat.

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Heyhey, don't be this negative about the P4. It is a very complex processor with a lot of kick-ass features (anybody heard of the HyperThreading-stuff, not to mention SSE2 and the really advanced pipelining?). Intel 's put a lot of research in it. And although the P4 is expensive, it is able to compete against the Athlon, no? You are right about the quite unclear marketing-strategy Intel is using, but their products really are not that bad IMHO ...
 

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yes, i read a review of a dual tualatin mobo (1.26's @ 1.5) and the guy said he uses that setup at his home, and <b>does not use any hsf!</b> said he's only got one intake fan in the case and they still never get over 110f under full load. googlegear.com has the 1.4 for $360, cheapest i've seen it.

Somehow I find this unlikely...


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Advanced Pipelining? SSE 2 optimizing? Hyper-threading? HA!
1) The pipeline is no gift in the box, it simply makes higher speeds but completly screws the performance, AND any chance of misprediction and change of code will result in flushing and redoing the cycle of 20 stages, which means even slower.
AMD's next Hammer will have 12 stage pipeling possibly, an increase of 20% to allow higher speeds, but they worked on not affecting performance by using Memory Controllers on board, and so much more.
2)SSE 2? Don't get us started, SSE2 has yet to be a part of our daily programs and it has been proven that even AthlonXPs can do similar or better performance at SSE 2 benchs even if it doesn't have it!!!
They only did this for crowd massing and impressing some but it doesn't impress me at all. It barely boosted the P4, while adding SSE on Athlons made over 30-90% jump in performance in some cases!!Check Anandtech if you do not beleive me.
3)Hyper-threading, yeah right if it is there, why not enable it? Fact is they just announced it off the air for advertising but they did not work on it to make it work. If it had, they'd also need to work out a way to make apps fully working with it, sadly not in Intel's case which they needed to hurry everything up for the consumers not to look at AMD.

It is NOT able to compete, and it's only cuz of extremely high MHZ gaps that it does which is not something that impresses us. Fact is a recent bench site did a very serious test that showed that the AXP 1.66GHZ was indeed still the leader by 10% in most apps compared to the 2.2NW! How can you call that competition!

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How many dual Tualatian boards are there though with an intel chipset? Acorp make one right, but I don't know any more. In any case, all intel chipsets for the Tually pair it with SDRAM right?