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The rule of behirs is that they can never be used in standard form.
Think back to Virnig, the behir from The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth. Old
Virnig had some minor spellcasting ability, unlike others of his kind.
To my knowledge, Tsojcanth is the first publication featuring behirs,
which means the first time we see one in print, it is nonstandard.
Then there was the behir from Dungeonland (or was is Beyond the Magic
Mirror?). The one with powers of illusion to appear as a hookah smoking
caterpillar lounging about on a giant mushroom. Yeah, him. Again, not
your average behir (standard behir have no powers of illusion).
In my personal gaming experience, I have dealt with two behirs. One of
these was in a campaign run back when I was in high school, and it was a
"baby behir" -- actually a young adult with only eight legs and fewer
hit dice than average. The other was in a game I ran, and he had been
magically altered by a wizard ally so that he breathed fire instead of
electricity.
Now I recently acquired the behir figurine in the Giants of Legend
miniature set, and I noticed that the trend continues. The miniature in
Giants of Legend is supposed to be a Huge creature -- but folks, it is
bigger than that. It pushes the limits of Huge so much that you can
probably pick one up for yourself the same way I did -- heft all of the
Giants of Legend boxes and buy the one that feels heaviest. That will
probably be the behir.
It's a fine looking figurine, better in person than it looks in online
photos. It is so big that its clawed feet sprawl out of its circular
black plastic base, and it looks as though it could eat the Huge Red
Dragon figure from the same set for dinner and still have room for
dessert. The monster manual states that behirs are about 30 feet long,
and I rolled the figure across my battle mat to learn that it is
actually 70 feet long. Since it spreads out of the 15X15 square allowed
for a Huge figure, and seems to nest rather well in the 20X20 square
allowed for a Gargantuan figure, I submit that the behir figure from
Giants of Legend is the first Gargantuan figure put out by WotC for
their 3.X D&D system.
Also, of course, since it is so big... it is nonstandard. Behir can be
advanced up to Gargantuan size, and I figure this figure most be one of
those behir.
Again, the rule of behirs -- they can never be used in standard form.
Anyone else here ever use a behir in standard form? Nonstandard? Lets
put it to a vote.
- Ron ^*^
The rule of behirs is that they can never be used in standard form.
Think back to Virnig, the behir from The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth. Old
Virnig had some minor spellcasting ability, unlike others of his kind.
To my knowledge, Tsojcanth is the first publication featuring behirs,
which means the first time we see one in print, it is nonstandard.
Then there was the behir from Dungeonland (or was is Beyond the Magic
Mirror?). The one with powers of illusion to appear as a hookah smoking
caterpillar lounging about on a giant mushroom. Yeah, him. Again, not
your average behir (standard behir have no powers of illusion).
In my personal gaming experience, I have dealt with two behirs. One of
these was in a campaign run back when I was in high school, and it was a
"baby behir" -- actually a young adult with only eight legs and fewer
hit dice than average. The other was in a game I ran, and he had been
magically altered by a wizard ally so that he breathed fire instead of
electricity.
Now I recently acquired the behir figurine in the Giants of Legend
miniature set, and I noticed that the trend continues. The miniature in
Giants of Legend is supposed to be a Huge creature -- but folks, it is
bigger than that. It pushes the limits of Huge so much that you can
probably pick one up for yourself the same way I did -- heft all of the
Giants of Legend boxes and buy the one that feels heaviest. That will
probably be the behir.
It's a fine looking figurine, better in person than it looks in online
photos. It is so big that its clawed feet sprawl out of its circular
black plastic base, and it looks as though it could eat the Huge Red
Dragon figure from the same set for dinner and still have room for
dessert. The monster manual states that behirs are about 30 feet long,
and I rolled the figure across my battle mat to learn that it is
actually 70 feet long. Since it spreads out of the 15X15 square allowed
for a Huge figure, and seems to nest rather well in the 20X20 square
allowed for a Gargantuan figure, I submit that the behir figure from
Giants of Legend is the first Gargantuan figure put out by WotC for
their 3.X D&D system.
Also, of course, since it is so big... it is nonstandard. Behir can be
advanced up to Gargantuan size, and I figure this figure most be one of
those behir.
Again, the rule of behirs -- they can never be used in standard form.
Anyone else here ever use a behir in standard form? Nonstandard? Lets
put it to a vote.
- Ron ^*^
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